From: "soulsurvivor7771" <pathinfo@comcast.net>
Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World Re: The Origin of Annie Besant's Adepthood
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:54:33 -0000
Senor Carlos is at it again. This time he is trying to discredit CWL
by insinuating that CWL had something to do with Annie
Besant's 'Adepthood' announcement - that CWL was really the 'Origin'.
In fact, Leadbeater had nothing to do with it at all. The Adepthood
story was concocted by George Arundell while Leadbeater was in
Australia. George may have thought it up himself or got it from this
Wedgwood person. In any case, Leadbeater did not believe the story.
When Krishnamurthi questioned him about it, Leadbeater said (in so
many words) that Krishnamurthi was the only Arhat he was aware of
(that Krishnamurthi was indeed an Arhat has been confirmed by others).
To suggest that CWL was somehow responsible for this sorry episode is
spreading lies about someone who has done a lot to advance the cause
of Theosophy albeit by unconventional means. Mr. Carlos needs to read
his sources more carefully and stop making connections (between
Leadbeater and Arundell's Adepthood) that don't exist.
Regards,
Dave
(I had better get out of here quick, Mr Psionics is coming after me :-
))
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> FRIENDS,
>
> below, a letter to a fellow truth-seeker whow wrote to me
complaining
> about the significant number of controversies in the Theosophical
Movement.
> Carlos.
>
>
> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>
> Dear Friend,
>
> Brotherly friendship and understanding need freedom and diversity.
>
> It is important that you read Letter 120, Mahatma Letters,
Chronological
> Edition, on the London Lodge Crisis. (I do not remember the Letter
number in
> non-cronological editions).
>
> It was written by a Mahatma after consulting with his own Master
about
> theosophical controversies. The essence of the Letter is that,
according
> to the Masters, the contrast of views and opinions,
> once they are sincere, must be freely exercized and even preserved
from
> hypocritical make-belief and outer harmony.
>
> It coincides with a famous poem written by English poet Alexander
Pope,
> which says (and I quote the idea, no the words themselves):
>
> "Every disharmony is a harmony that you cannot understand yet".
>
> So true harmony will never emerge from repressing diversity and
true
> contrast in nature.
>
> Thought monoculture is as disastrous as agricultural monoculture.
>
> Thought diversity in the mind world is as important as biodiversity
in
> natural environment.
>
> The great treason, conscious or unconscious, promoted by CWL and A.
Besant
> against the
> HPB Mission (a Mission, by the way, which is NOT limited to the
19th
> century) was to create rituals as a way of establishing an
uniformity of
> thought under their own popish control.
>
> Now, there is a difference between contrast, frankness, dversity,
and
> hatred, enmity and the like.
>
> It is by puting on the table and freely examining the failures of
the
> movement as a whole (and
> occultly Adyar is NOT separated from the rest of the movement),
that we will
> gradually eliminate all bitter feelings among us.
>
> I do not have access to Internet from my Library, but I can tell
tomorrow
> you the number of the Letter 120 in the other editions of the
Mahatma
> Letters. Tell me if you want that.
>
> And, by the way, if you study the M. Letters you will see that
CWL's
> writings have nothing to see
> with the Mahatmas' teachings.
>
> AND --- do you happen to know that CWL was never admitted to the
Esoteric
> School founded by H.P.B.?
>
> He received a couple of letters from the Mahatmas, yes, but soon he
was out
> of focus. He never was admitted to the HPB's inner school.
Instead, he was
> busy having mediumnistic "chats" with imaginary Masters in
the 'inner
> circle' of Mr. A. P. Sinnett, in London. A. Besant also took part,
there,
> right after HPB's death. (See Mr. A.P. Sinnett Memoirs.) And soon
the
> nonsense began.
>
> Then CWL became the source of Mrs. A.Besant "contact" with her own
imaginary
> Masters.
>
> It was in this way that Besant finnally anounced, in 1925 that she
had
> attained Adepthood, as
> I have documented here while illustrating the life of Mr. James
Wedgwood,
> the founder of the Liberal Catholic Church and another
Adyar "Adept" in
> 1925. The inquestionable source is Mary Lutyens, J.
Krishnamurti's
> biographer.
>
> It's History. These are documented facts. As a source, A.P.
Sinnett was
> never questioned.
>
> He was international vice-president under Annie Besant, and close
friends
> with CWL and her until he died.
>
> I have all the data and can bring them all here to you. I believe
it is
> indeed important that we
> understand the origin of all the "clairvoyant" fancies in order to
> understand them and then to GET RID OF THEM.
>
>
> I hope you have the patience to stand the "ugly truths" we must
accept,
> examine and learn from, in order to go ahead to the next step.
>
>
> Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline
>
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