Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt00220)

Information provided to HPB by living residents of Peru was the 
source of her discovery of the Andean center, with the many miles of 
caves she mentions in "Isis Unveiled."  She employed the testimony 
of residents.  

Discoveries as recent as 2001 enlarge the possibility of ancient 
centers of learning that disseminated "the secret doctrine" 
considerably.  Cuban and Russian scientists did an initial survey of 
sunken pyramids in the Caribbean, off the coast of Cuba, in 2001 to 
determine that the sunken pyramids most closely resemble those at 
Teotihuacan.  These sank long before they were recorded in any known 
literature.  The sunken pyramids in the Caribbean are truly ancient 
and lost in history.  

The location in the Caribbean is memorialized in the pyramids at 
Teotihuacan, built betweeen 300 and 100 BCE.  The location off the 
coast of Cuba is identified in the TimeStar geometry, and I 
published that location as the likely site of pyramids in 1997, 
before the Cubans announced the discovery.

Cuba is an ideal location for a base between the Mediterranean and 
Mexico.  Cortes sailed from Cuba when first traveling to 
Mexico.  "The Feathered Serpent," Quetzalcoatl, who gave numbers and 
letters to Mexico, sailed towards Cuba when he left Mexico.  The 
discovery of these sunken pyramids and place references pointing to 
the Caribbean embedded at Teotihuacan is specific and significant in 
this regard.

You will be hearing much more about the sunken pyramids near Cuba, 
when the Cubans and Russians are ready to publish.  The Cubans have 
refused U.S. assistance with the newly discovered pyramids and hired 
Canadians to do the technical work for the 2001 exploration.  Not 
much is heard about the pyramids in the U.S., although "National 
Geograhic" published a small amount of information.

Krsanna Duran

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Krsanna,
> 
> In general words, I agree with that.
> 
> HPB visited native Adepts and Disciples both in South American 
Andean 
> Mountain Range
> and in the Central and North America.
> 
> The Iroquois political wisdom is world famous.
> 
> HPB had the support of the three main Lodges of Adepts existing in 
the 
> world, according
> to the Masters' statement in the Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett.
> 
> One of such Lodges include the several native, Inter- American 
traditions.
> 
> I recommend the study of her text "A LAND of MYSTERY", on the 
Andean 
> tradition,
> and also her long  text on South American, Andean adepts and 
disciples 
> included in "ISIS UNVEILED".
> 
> 
> Best regards,  Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "krsanna" <timestar@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World America's wisdom with care
> >Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:13:38 -0000
> >
> >The structure and freedom of speech, assembly and religion of the
> >motherland upon which the Theosophical Society was modeled were 
the
> >legacy of the Iroquois League of Nations, which Benjamin Franklin
> >and Thomas Jefferson both studied.  Meritocracy was introduced 
into
> >world governance by way of America's ancient teachings, adopted by
> >the Founding Fathers of the USA.  ("1491: New Revelations of the
> >Americas Before Columbus" and "Indian Givers" are two good books 
to
> >start with on this history, even though they are only entry 
points.)
> >
> >As Blavatsky found in 1851 when she visited the U.S. seeking the
> >ancient wisdom teachings she was certain had been endowed in the
> >Americas, Christians systematically obliterated the ancient 
wisdom.
> >As Theosophists we know that people, culture, and language appear
> >and disappear in cycles.  Restoring America's wisdom is the work 
of
> >the "7th generation," widely prophesied throughout the Americas to
> >be the heirs of the land and culture of the ancients.
> >
> >Anyone who thinks the new race will be born in America without the
> >native people has another think coming.  Mark  my words.  You 
ain't
> >seen nothing yet.
> >
> >The emergence of America's ancient wisdom will be refined and
> >assimilated in ways not anciently realized, but that's the point 
of
> >evolution.
> >
> >Krsanna Duran
> >
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
> ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> > >
> > > LOOKING AT THE USA WITH CARE
> > >
> > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> > >
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > Let's not forget that HPB wrote that the Theosophical Society,
> >with its
> > > pluralistical structure,
> > > was created after its "motherland" structure", id est, the 
United
> >States.
> > > (I have the exact reference in my livbrary if anyone wants 
it. )
> > >
> > > It was not a coincidence that the TS was founded in the USA.
> > >
> > > It is not a coincidence that the U.N. headquarters is in New 
York,
> >the same
> > > city where the TS was founded -- and the city recently 
attacked by
> >Al Qaeda.
> > >
> > > It is not a pure coincidence that since 1945 the end of the 
second
> >World War
> > > is celebrated each  8th of May, the very same day when HPB left
> >her body
> > > after a lifetime dedicated to PREVENT,  (through the teaching 
of
> > > Truthfulness and Universal Brotherhood) at least the worst
> >possibilities of
> > > the future 20th Century World Wars.
> > >
> > > History has its unconscious way to celebrate lives of 
Initiates.
> > >
> > > It is not a coincidence that the USA president who signed the 
end
> >of World
> > > War II in Europe, Harry Truman, was born... in a May 8th!
> >(Roosevelt  died a
> > > short while before that.)
> > >
> > > So if we are impatient with Mr. George W. Bush, or if we see 
many
> >errors in
> > > the USA, let's not forget the positive aspects of that country
> >where the
> > > seed-work for the next and better civilizations is being 
patiently
> >prepared
> > > (as well as in the rest of the Americas)  as HPB states in her
> >book "The
> > > Secret Doctrine".
> > >
> > > As to killing native and indigenous  people, you don't what
> >happened in the
> > > Andes, in all of Spanish America, in Africa,  and in Brazil! 
It is
> > > absolutely not comparable to what happened in the USA.  
Absolutely
> >worse.
> > >
> > > In Brazil, such killing is happening even now.
> > >
> > > Best regards,   Carlos.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "krsanna" <timestar@>
> > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World A teacher compares George to Adolf
> > > >Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:51:23 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Amen! Americans rarely acknowledge that America was Hitler's
> > > >inspiration for confining and eliminating inferior races, and 
that
> > > >he wrote about how well America had handled American Indians 
by
> > > >isolating them on "federal reservations," that were often as 
cruel
> > > >as Hitler's concentration camps. American President Andrew 
Jackson
> > > >pioneered biological warfare by infecting blankets with 
smallpox,
> > > >rounding up Indian children, women and men at gunpoint in the
> >middle
> > > >of the winter and giving them the smallpox infected blankets.
> > > >
> > > >American Indians do not have immunity to childhood diseases 
common
> > > >in Europe, i.e., measles and smallpox.  This lack of immunity 
is
> > > >part of American Indian genetics and America's government 
used it
> >to
> > > >exterminate the Indians who had legal claims to their 
homelands.
> > > >
> > > >Hitler wrote about the virtues of the early Aryan immigrants 
to
> > > >America who had solved the problem of the inferior races by
> > > >isolating them on reservations and eliminating them.  As
> >treacherous
> > > >to humanity as Hitler's beliefs about inferior races was his
> > > >attitude towards the German people.  He believed that many of 
the
> > > >more intelligent and courageous Aryans had immigrated to 
American,
> > > >leaving the less intelligent and courageous in Germany.
> > > >
> > > >By the early 1940's, Hitler had concluded that the Jews, by 
way of
> > > >free enterpreise and capitalism, had ruined the greatness 
Hitler
> >had
> > > >seen in the Aryans who had immigrated to America.
> > > >
> > > >Americans forget that Blacks were not allowed to fight side-
by-
> >side
> > > >with Whites and that federal policies of sterilizing Indians 
as
> > > >inferiors was still practiced in America during World War 
II.  One
> > > >of the first things I noticed about theosophical hypocracies 
was
> > > >that I have never once seen a single comment in theosophical
> > > >literature about the Civil Rights Movement that Rosa Parks 
began
> >in
> > > >1954 when she refused to give up her seat to a White man.
> > > >
> > > >Why didn't an organization dedicated to brotherhood get out 
on the
> > > >line and march with Rosa Parks?  Why didn't Theosophists write
> >about
> > > >the Civil Rights Movement to integrate America's schools,
> > > >businesses, and churches the way Gandhi worked to liberate 
India?
> > > >
> > > >It still amazes me that Theosophists who spoke so proudly
> > > >of "Universal Brotherhood" never said a word about the Civil
> >Rights
> > > >Movement in America.  I don't want to digress too far from the
> > > >discussion of theosophical organizations, but a number of 
American
> > > >Indian scholars were the only people who identified the 2003
> > > >invasion of Iraq as a land grab, which Wolfewitz inadvertently
> > > >acknowledged 6 months after the invasion in an interview
> > > >with "Vanity Fair."  American Indians are well experienced 
with
> >the
> > > >strategy and tactics of grabbing land and resources at any 
cost.
> > > >
> > > >Krsanna Duran
> > > >
> > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer"
> > > ><ringding777@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > =>It seems that someone has created a euphemism
> > > > > for evil "Hitler". I
> > > > > think it is really too extreme. It is a form of
> > > > > racism in itself to
> > > > > think  that one genocide is worse or more cruel
> > > > > than another if it is
> > > > > carried out on white middle class groups (mostly)
> > > > > rather than poor
> > > > > black people (AIDS and slavery).
> > > > >
> > > > > AIDS may prove to be the king of genocides.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gosh! I hear it since over 20 years but as yet no
> > > > > one could proof that HIV makes AIDS or even what
> > > > > AIDS is (a code word for over 20 normal diseases
> > > > > like pneumonia etc., as Prof. Duisberg says).
> > > > > The plutocrats earn a lot of money with selling
> > > > > "AIDS medicine" in Africa, which creates rather
> > > > > the AIDS symptoms then to prevent them.
> > > > > AIDS is a bigot, dogmatic, unscientific,
> > > > > illogical, flight-from-reason religion, a
> > > > > conspiracy like the bird flue and the Tamiflu hoax
> > > > > of Bush and Rumsfeld.
> > > > >
> > > > > But you should admit that it was not big H who
> > > > > created AIDS (or the 200 wars the USrael picked
> > > > > since 1945 to steal the possessions of other
> > > > > nations), on the contrary in the Third Reich no
> > > > > one could become a  politican because he was
> > > > > corrupt, rich, was a shareholder with the aim to
> > > > > exploit the people from above in misusing state
> > > > > facilities to increase personal profit by criminal
> > > > > means. He could only become a leader of his people
> > > > > when he had an idealistic, altrustic mind. In the
> > > > > "free" USA the "elite" is trained from its very
> > > > > youth how to lie, to steal, to make profit, to
> > > > > hoodwink, to rook.
> > > > > Not only the peoples of the nations, which were
> > > > > "liberated" by the US terrorists are suppressed,
> > > > > the Americans in the USA are suppressed, too. It
> > > > > is not THIER government in Brainwashington.
> > > > > They are under foreign rule of a foreign people,
> > > > > as the founding fathers predicted.
> > > > > Frank
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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