Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01303)

I fully agree.

Vince

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> The shrewdest!
> Cass
> 
> Bart Lidofsky <bartl@...> wrote:  I am not going to teach you 
evolutionary theory from the ground up. 
> However, I will state that, in the idea of "survival of the 
fittest", 
> the term "fittest" has a specific meaning other than what is 
normally 
> associated with "superiority", and the idea of individuals in a 
species 
> being "fittest" was discarded decades ago.
> 
>  Bart
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> Vincent wrote:
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> > Bart-
> > 
> > You wrote:
> > 
> > "Maybe because the only people making that claim are those who 
are 
> > disputing it?"
> > 
> > An assumption on your part.  And a projection.  I've commonly 
been 
> > shown linear timelines on evolutionary development that show 
only 
> > one line of progression, as opposed to two lines.  Namely, from 
ape 
> > to human, as opposed to apes and humans from a common ancestor.  
My 
> > assessment is that many scientists today have simply veered from 
> > Darwin's original theories.
> > 
> > Perhaps you can do a little better than narrow-minded 
> > presuppositions and actually answer questions when they are 
posited, 
> > if indeed you have an answer.  Your misrepresentation is not a 
valid 
> > debate tactic, if in fact you are attempting to validate some 
point.
> > 
> > You also wrote:
> > 
> > "...demonstrate that you know little about evolutionary theory."
> > 
> > Then explain your stance and why you believe it, instead of 
simply 
> > resorting to petty intellectual condescension.  When you make a 
> > scientific assertion, then back it up, instead of just expecting 
me 
> > to believe it like the dogmatic religionists do.  I think that 
> > you're just offended that I didn't take your word for it.  And 
> > instead of actually presenting a case for your assertions, you 
> > prefer to use a mode of counter-attack through the use of 
> > misrepresentation and intellectual condescension.  It's not 
working 
> > here.  Try again.
> > 
> > Vince
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky  wrote:
> > 
> >>Vincent wrote:
> >>
> >>>Well, I've had some minor debate with scientists before over 
> >>>internet forums, and when the concept of genomes was brought up 
> > 
> > to 
> > 
> >>>me, it seemed to show little more than a familial relation 
> > 
> > between 
> > 
> >>>humans and apes, but no actual evidence that humans had 
actually 
> >>>evolved from apes.  
> >>
> >> Maybe because the only people making that claim are those 
> > 
> > who are 
> > 
> >>disputing it? This, and...
> >>
> >>
> >>>You can tell an ape's evolutionary superiority above humans by 
> > 
> > their 
> > 
> >>>advanced stregth and agility.  Apes are clearly superior to 
> > 
> > humans 
> > 
> >>>in many ways, and so it only stands to reason that apes 
> > 
> > descended 
> > 
> >>>from humans.  The similarity in the genones clearly evidences 
an 
> >>>interfamilial relation.
> >>
> >> ...demonstrate that you know little about evolutionary 
> > 
> > theory.
> > 
> >> Bart
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