Theos-Talk Archives (March 2006 Message tt01379)

Chuck,

> Except that the reference specifically states that it was Jews that were  
> having a disturbance causing the Divine Claudius to kick them out of Rome, which  
> pretty much leaves out the Greek mysteries except as a real stretch of  
> reasoning.
I think you misunderstood my meaning.  Chrestus is a proper name. Though 
the name is Greek, the bearer of the name could have been a Jew.  Jews 
with Greek names were very common in those days.  My reference to the 
Greek mysteries concerned "Christos," which is not a proper name, but a 
title. 
> We could use the same reasoning to say that the Buddha never really existed  
> either.
A little over thirty years ago some Indian archaeologists found the 
Buddha's stupa and the burial urn near Lumbini.   The Buddha's 
historical existence is not a problem, nor is it a big deal to Buddhists 
whether he existed or not. For Buddhists, the teachings or the issue, 
not the teacher.

Jesus, on the other hand, was supposed to have resurrected from the 
dead and ascended bodily to heaven.  I suppose if you are a person of 
faith, you could argue that our not finding Jesus' remains is proof that 
he resurrected. 
Best
Jerry



Drpsionic@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/22/2006 9:38:42 PM Central Standard Time,  
> jjhe@charter.net writes:
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> The  reference you have in mind is to someone named "Chrestus" who led a  
> riot.  It is possible that it is a reference to Jesus, or to  "Christos," 
> or to a follower of Jesus.  All these possibilities have  been suggested 
> in the theologian's desperate search for a solid reference  to Jesus 
> outside of the Bible.  Most likely, Suetonius' gloss is only  a reference 
> to some rabble rouser named Chrestus: a perfectly proper Greek  name at 
> the time.  Ironically, the name means "a good person" or a  
> "gentleman."   Christos, on the other hand, means annoited by  god, a 
> word that alludes to the Greek mysteries.  
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> Except that the reference specifically states that it was Jews that were  
> having a disturbance causing the Divine Claudius to kick them out of Rome, which  
> pretty much leaves out the Greek mysteries except as a real stretch of  
> reasoning.
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> We could use the same reasoning to say that the Buddha never really existed  
> either.
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> Chuck the Heretic
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