Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
Mar 27, 2006 12:44 PM
by Vincent
You wrote:
"Who called anyone literally drunk here?"
You comparatively derived a metaphor of 'word' drunkenness from a
source of literal drunkenness. 'Another way to get drunk' as per
your thread title. You were deriving a metaphor from the literal,
even as all metaphors are derived from the literal as comparative
communication devices.
"I thought you could perceive "getting drunk" is a metaphor."
Most certainly. And in the context of your obvious offendedness, a
derogatory metaphor at best. Metaphors are used as comparisons to
the literal as a literary device. You were comparing. And your
comparative metaphor was in relation to something that you detest.
"Pay attention, "Vince"."
Sounds pretty aggressive, lolol. Forced perspectives don't make too
much headway with me. I think you're still offended. At what, I
really don't know, because you said that you didn't feel that I had
tricked you. But you're offended nonetheless. Do you require
continued assistance working through your offendedness?
Vince
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso aveline"
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Vince,
>
>
> Who called anyone literally drunk here?
>
> I thought you could perceive "getting drunk" is a metaphor.
>
> Pay attention, "Vince".
>
> Carlos.
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@...>
> >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:26:25 -0000
> >
> >Iain-
> >
> >LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Iain" <ibse03888@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > > Jhusht too say that I am not under the affluence of
> >incahol!!
> > > cheers
> > > Iain
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:30 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> > >
> > >
> > > Carlos-
> > >
> > > It was a joke. I don't drink either. I think you're taking
it way
> > > too seriously. You're resorting to calling me a drunk out of
the
> > > blue, because I'm a writer. It sounds like a personality
conflict
> > > to me, and something that you need to deal with on your own.
> > >
> > > Vince
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
aveline"
> > > <carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vince,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I don't enjoy getting drunk with words or alcohol.
> > > >
> > > > Silence is that which gives words and others things meaning.
> > > >
> > > > Carlos.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> > > > >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:05:46 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Carlos-
> > > > >
> > > > >But it's Saturday.
> > > > >
> > > > >Vince
> > > > >
> > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline cardoso
> >aveline"
> > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No thanks. I might get mentally drunk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: On Another Way to Get Drunk
> > > > > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:22:00 -0000
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >No, I actually don't. But I do think that some people
can
> > > easily
> > > > > > >get offended at other people's creative writing habits,
if
> > > what is
> > > > > > >written isn't quite what they want to hear. Does that
> >answer
> > > your
> > > > > > >question? I can elaborate in long stanzas for you if
you'd
> > > like.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
cardoso
> > > aveline"
> > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > By the way, I've got a question.
> > > > > > > > Do you believe that people can get drunk with words,
as
> > > they
> > > > >play
> > > > > > >with them
> > > > > > > > and get enthusiastic about their own abilities in
making
> > > > >sentences?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Carlos- The virtue of
> > > literal 'truth' and
> > > > > > >the evil of
> > > > > > > > >'nonsense'
> > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:47:00 -0000
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Carlos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I'm glad then that you didn't feel tricked.
Actually,
> > > > > > > > >the 'nonsense' that I had originally presented was a
> >type
> > > of
> > > > > > > > >wordplay used somewhat as a literary device. I
forget
> >the
> > > > >exact
> > > > > > > > >terminology for such a literary device, but it is
often
> > > used
> > > > >in
> > > > > > > > >creative writing contexts, and sometimes even in
debate
> >or
> > > > >common
> > > > > > > > >discussion. What in effect actually happened is
that
> > > someone
> > > > > > >(I'll
> > > > > > > > >not name who) had hyper-literalistically strained my
> > > > >wordplay, and
> > > > > > > > >therefore had declared it to be 'absurd'.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >For example, I may make a statement such as 'I ate a
> > > whole cow
> > > > > > > > >today'. And indeed such a statement is absurd,
> > > especially to
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >hyper-literalist. Some literalists will actually be
> > > offended
> > > > >if I
> > > > > > > > >say that 'I ate a whole cow today', when in reality
I
> >did
> > > not
> > > > >eat
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > >whole cow today. It vexes them in their respect
for the
> > > high
> > > > > > >virtue
> > > > > > > > >of truth, and I am merely an ignorant purveyor of
> > > deceptive
> > > > > > > > >falsehood to them, if I make such an absurd
statement
> > > as 'I
> > > > >ate a
> > > > > > > > >whole cow today'.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Now such a statement as 'I ate a whole cow today'
is not
> > > > > > > > >intentionally meant to manipulate or decieve,
> > > notwithstanding
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >fact that there are sometimes those literalists who
will
> > > > > > >inevitably
> > > > > > > > >strain such a statement exceedingly, assuming that I
> > > actually
> > > > >ate
> > > > > > >a
> > > > > > > > >whole cow, or that I believe myself to have eaten a
> >whole
> > > cow.
> > > > > > >The
> > > > > > > > >hyper-literalist, when assuming ignorance in the
other
> > > person
> > > > >when
> > > > > > > > >absurd statements are made, only vexes
herself/himself,
> > > > >because
> > > > > > >pure
> > > > > > > > >truth has not been expressed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
> >cardoso
> > > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Vincent,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I did not feel tricked. And I do not
enjoy "judging
> > > > > > >personalities".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I just saw you said -- sometimes you write some
> > > nonsense
> > > > >in
> > > > > > >order
> > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > measure people's reactions.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That tends to be seen as a mental trick.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In Theosophy, candidness, the ability to speak
one's
> > > mind,
> > > > >to
> > > > > > > > >write what one
> > > > > > > > > > thinks and to think what one writes, is
considered to
> > > be
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >fuel
> > > > > > > > >in the
> > > > > > > > > > search for truth.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Otherwise you get trapped in closed circles
leading
> >to
> > > > >self-
> > > > > > > > >delusion.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ideally, there should be a sort of balance
between
> > > words
> > > > >and
> > > > > > > > >silence.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > All the best, Carlos.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World Re: Vincent Agnostic?
> > > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:56:59 -0000
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >You wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >"Agnostics also do not play mind tricks like
the
> > > ones you
> > > > > > >said
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > >play, or are playing, here."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >In what way did you feel tricked?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >I've often classified Christian fundamentalists
as
> >the
> > > > > > >tricksters,
> > > > > > > > > > >but I suppose anyone can do it, agnostic or
> >otherwise.
> > > > >And
> > > > > > >indeed
> > > > > > > > > > >they and we all do, whether we wish to
acknowledge
> >it
> > > or
> > > > >not.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >By the way, are you familiar with the concept
of the
> > > > >different
> > > > > > > > > > >archtypes within humanity? And their various
pre-
> > > ordained
> > > > > > >roles?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-
talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
> > > cardoso
> > > > > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Vince,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Agnostics also do not play mind tricks
> > > > > > > > > > > > like the ones you said you play, or are
playing,
> > > here.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Vincent" <vblaz2004@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Theos-World To Carlos- Concerning
Vince
> > > and
> > > > >Good
> > > > > > > > > > >Christians-
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Sorry, but I'm Agnostic
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:12:39 -0000
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Carlos-
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >That's because I'm agnostic. I am not a
> > > Christian.
> > > > > > >Please
> > > > > > > > >do not
> > > > > > > > > > > > >misrepresent me. I do not believe that a
> > > cosmological
> > > > > > > > >supergod
> > > > > > > > > > >can
> > > > > > > > > > > > >be known by mortal humanity. Thank you.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-
> >talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline
> > > > >cardoso
> > > > > > > > >aveline"
> > > > > > > > > > > > ><carlosaveline@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vince,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cass is right.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you do, according to your own words,
> >does
> > > not
> > > > > > >seem to
> > > > > > > > >be
> > > > > > > > > > > > >honest. Or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christian.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hi there,
I'm
> > > Vince
> > > > >and
> > > > > > >I am
> > > > > > > > >new
> > > > > > > > > > >to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >the group
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:44:49 -0800
(PST)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Manipulation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Cass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Vincent <vblaz2004@> wrote: Chuck-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Don't worry. It all comes around again.
> > > I'll get
> > > > > > >mine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I usually am committed to an intelligent
> > > > >discussion,
> > > > > > >but
> > > > > > > > > > > > >sometimes I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >intentionally throw an absurd statement
into
> > > the
> > > > > > >works for
> > > > > > > > > > >fun. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >really don't mean to work people up, but
> >some
> > > > >people
> > > > > > >just
> > > > > > > > >get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >absolutely offended if I venture to say
> > > something
> > > > > > >stupid.
> > > > > > > > > > >Then I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >see the person's disposition when they
> >either
> > > > >laugh or
> > > > > > > > >rage.
> > > > > > > > > > >A
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rather curious thing, don't ya think?
What
> > > might
> > > > > > >cause
> > > > > > > > >that?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Vince
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com,
> >Drpsionic@
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/20/2006 9:32:46
PM
> > > Central
> > > > > > > > >Standard
> > > > > > > > > > >Time,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vblaz2004@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you fell for it? I'm surprised
that
> > > you
> > > > >would
> > > > > > > > > > >respond so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seriously to that, lolol. Satire.
> >Irony.
> > > > > > >Sarcasm.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Lighten up.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I did! Hook, line sinker and
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You got me good.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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