Theos-Talk Archives (May 2006 Message tt00659)

Dear Christina,

Thanks for the interesting note on Ms. Radha.

One small thing: she is the seventh (a strong number), not the fifth  Adyar TS International President.

The names are: 

1) H.S. Olcott; 2) A. Besant; 3) C. Jinarajadasa; 4) G. Arundale; 5) N. Sri Ram; 6), John Coats; 7) Radha Burnier. 


Regards,  Carlos. 


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Data:Fri, 19 May 2006 11:25:19 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World President Radha Burnier since 1980 of TS .

> Maybe a peanut the year she started, but I feel to show a short 
> writing about her career.
> Radha is born in 1923 in Adyar, daughter of N.Shri Ram, the fifth 
> International president of TS.
> B.A and M.A in Sanscrit on Hindu University Benares.Became in 1984 
> honorary degree in literature of the Nagarjuna University.
> She became member of TS in 1935, has been a lot of years president 
> of loges for youngs and adults.
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> Also as librarian(1945-51) and secretary she worked a lot and as 
> translator.
> President of the federation Madras (1959-63)
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> Head of Kretona (USA) and The Manor of Australia.Since 1960 member 
> of the general council.
> President of the Besant education fellowship and Olcott education 
> sociëty.
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> Started New life for India movement(1968).
> Since 1980 International president of TS.
> Farther she was exponent of Classic Indian dances, with she fill a 
> part in the film "The River"of Jean Renoir.
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> for the ones are interested for:
> Greetings Christina
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> -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
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> > Dear Friends,
> > 
> > According to Daniel Caldwell's theory, SEE BELOW, Besant SD was 
> authentic. 
> > 
> > But -- what is the reason, then, why both Boris de Zirkoff and 
> the Adyar TS did not republish Besant's "Secret Doctrine", but 
> dropped it, and adopted the original SD edition? 
> > 
> > Please consider that only very strong reasons could have made 
> Adyar TS abandon the edition published by its long-standing 
> President and ES Outer Head, A. Besant. 
> > 
> > It would not make sense to "drop" Besant's Third Volume-- 
> politically a sensitive decision -- if it had any real legitimacy. 
> > 
> > It would have been a tremendou irresponsibility on the part of 
> Boris, to abandon a "legitimate" SD edited by Besant/Mead. And we 
> know he was a most skilled, ethical and responsible editor. 
> > 
> > I am thinking from the institutional viewpoint, in order not to 
> have to discuss it paragraph-by-paragraph, since my time is limited. 
> > 
> > Has Besant's "wonderful job" (as Daniel seems to describe it) 
> been a victim of some "conspiracy" orquestrated by N. Sri Ram, John 
> Coats and Radha Burnier, the Adyar presidents since the 1960s ?? 
> > 
> > I do not think so. 
> > 
> > And, you see, Boris' work is universally considered reliable. 
> Dara Eklund, being his long-standing and closest co-worker, can only 
> support Boris' decision to abandon Besant's third volume and come 
> back to the original edition of the SD. 
> > 
> > If people think Besant's 3rd volume is good, then this means a 
> grave accusation against Boris and Adyar TS presidents. 
> > 
> > That accusation should be made frankly, openly, and in a 
> responsible way. 
> > 
> > Now, we have plenty of examples of Adyar TS editorial 
> irresponsibility in the area of Besant's influence. 
> > 
> > Boris, on the other hand, was not an Adyar TS member, I think, and 
> was a serious, scrupulous, responsible editor. 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos. 
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> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Cópia:
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> > Data:Thu, 18 May 2006 16:54:04 -0400
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> > Assunto:Theos-World re deZirkoff 3rd vol SD
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> > > Daniel -
> > > 
> > > yes I know this to be correct and Dara, Nicolas, Gomes, Richard 
> Robb can
> > > verify this I am sure. The content of the material that Besant 
> collected
> > > (though, I think in reality GRS Mead was the 3rd volume 
> editor ?? I have no
> > > reference at hand, but what do you think ?) was authentic 
> material left by
> > > HPB. One theory is that this was going to be re-worked into 
> the 'real' 3rd
> > > volume, but HPB never got to it. Another theory is that the 
> elements of
> > > the material for vol. 4 of SD is what we find in the 'Key' and ' 
> Voice',
> > > that is 'practical occultism'...... I realize that many points 
> that I 'take
> > > for granted' are apparently not well known. I think it is good 
> that you
> > > clarify these points so students know the facts and then can 
> draw their own
> > > conclusions from what really happened.
> > > 
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > PS - did you receive my email ? I do not have your current one.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > De: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Para: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Data: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:56:39 -0000
> > > Assunto: Theos-World Boris de Zirkoff used Annie Besant's Text
> > > 
> > > > It is a fact that can be shown and demonstrated (not just a
> > > > speculation) that for a considerable portion of the HPB text in
> > > > Collected Writings, Volume XIV, Boris de Zirkoff HAD TO pay 
> attention
> > > > to and actually USE Annie Besant's text from SD, Volume III, 
> 1897 for
> > > > the very simple reason that it [Besant's text] is the only 
> extant
> > > > text available.
> > > >
> > > > Anything said to the contrary is ignoring the real facts.
> > > >
> > > > Dara Eklund, Nicholas Weeks, Michael Gomes and other informed
> > > > persons know the above to be true.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
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