Theos-Talk Archives (July 2006 Message tt00265)

Daniel,

Thanks. 

I guess one's actions sometimes say more than one's words. 

Right now, I do not have the time to give a long answer to your message below but I desire you true peace and a nice working in your Antahkarana. 

Best regards,   Carlos. 





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Data:Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:04:51 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Dear Carlos and His advice to me

> Carlos,
> 
> I like the way you think you know what I should
> or should not be doing.
> 
> Like your wonderful advice to me:
> 
> "...start getting in touch with Theosophy -- a Divine Wisdom which 
> could not have been given to mankind by a false person who 'faked 
> phenomena' or 'invented Masters'."
> 
> How do you know if I have or have not got in touch with
> Theosophy? Jesus, are you the custodian of Theosophy?? 
> 
> From what I can tell, you haven't a clue about this as well as many
> other things.
> 
> Or take your next gem:
> 
> "Where is your respect towards the Masters and HPB (I will not 
> mention 'gratitude') if you keep publicizing libels which you KNOW 
> are false?"
> 
> "A healthy feeling self-respect is enough for anyone NOT to do 
> that." 
> 
> Here you go pontificating about respect and self-respect, blah, 
> blah, blah as though you are the world's best expert on such 
> subjects.
> 
> Does someone pay you by the word??? :)
> 
> When I first became acquainted with Theosophy, Blavatsky, etc., I 
> wanted to know everything I could about it. I remember many, many 
> years ago writing to Walter Carrithers and asking for copies of the 
> Coulomb pamphlet, etc. etc. Here I was but a novice, a newbie, but 
> Walter sent the material to me...he did NOT advise me not to read 
> the material or lecture me on this that and the other. He sent me 
> the material. I guess he thought I could read material for myself 
> and make up my own mind!! 
> 
> My intention from day one was to find out everything about Theosophy 
> and Blavatsky, go to the primary sources, study the material for 
> myself, not allow someone to filter it for me. Whether it was some 
> theosophical claim, some theosophical teaching, some controversy 
> about HPB, I wanted to study and think about this for myself. That 
> is not to say that I didn't listen to what others might have to 
> say. I did. 
> 
> In turn, for many years now, I have tried to collect all of this 
> material together and I have started putting more of it online so 
> others could have A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY to do the same thing I 
> did.....read, study, ponder....etc...come to their own 
> conclusions...read the negative, read the positive...whatever they 
> choose to read...........
> 
> I estimate that I have put online about 1/10th of the material 
> available and plan to put even more and more of it online in the 
> years to come. Yes, both pro and con, controversial, etc. 
> 
> People can believe whatever they want about me. You can spend the 
> next 10 years telling people how bad I am. I just don't care. You 
> didn't motivate me when I first started this journey and you 
> certainly don't motivate me now....at least to stop with my 
> projects!!!! :) ....if anything ...I must be doing something 
> right....
> 
> You are one of the few Theosophists to ever try to counsel me and 
> tell me what I know or don't know or what I should do or not do.
> 
> I have known a number of Theosophists....like Emmett Small, Grace 
> Knoche, Walter Carrithers, Victor Endersby, Richard Robb, Dara 
> Eklund, Virginia Hanson, George Linton, David Reigle, etc. etc. All 
> of them wonderful people and none of them ever displayed any of the 
> qualities that you display on a regular basis on Theos-
> Talk....Thanks to Parabrahman. 
> 
> I say all of the above and also at the same time I believe you are 
> sincere and mean well. But the world is a big place and there are 
> different strokes for different folks. 
> 
> If I want advice I don't think I want your advice... I had much 
> rather go directly, for example, to HPB's writings or to the Mahatma 
> Letters.....
> 
> So thanks but no thanks.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel,
> > 
> > The point raised by Mark can be seen as going beyond the act of 
> examining the letters in the British Museum. 
> > 
> > There are other ways to get in touch with the authenticity of 
> Theosophy and of confirming it by ourselves, and Mark most certainly 
> knows them.
> > 
> > By reading "The Secret Doctrine" and HPB's writings, or by 
> studying the contents of "The Mahatma Letters", one can see by 
> oneself that there is nothing false about Theosophy, or about HPB 
> and occult learning. 
> > 
> > I guess the main point in the question raised by Mark Jaqua is: 
> instead of making propaganda (perhaps on a voluntary basis?) of the 
> same old 19 century traitors and Judases, Algeo and you should start 
> getting in touch with Theosophy -- a Divine Wisdom which could not 
> have been given to mankind by a false person who "faked phenomena" 
> or "invented Masters".
> > 
> > 
> > Where is your respect towards the Masters and HPB (I will not 
> mention "gratitude") if you keep publicizing libels which you KNOW 
> are false? 
> > 
> > A healthy feeling self-respect is enough for anyone NOT to do 
> that. 
> > 
> > Kindly think about that. HPB as every Initiate, is a Mirror which 
> reflects the state of the soul of the observer. Respect for one's 
> higher self leads to have respect for her and the Masters. 
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards, Carlos Cardoso Aveline 
> > 
> >
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