Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00149)

Marie, 

I would not like to talk too much from a personal perspective, as I guess the themes are far more important than personalities; but I will take the opportunity to tell you once more that I deeply appreciate the honesty and goodwill of Adyar students like you -- and there are many of them ( many of you) ,  in different countries. 

May we all recognize the theosophical movement as One and Many,

Regards,  Carlos.

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Data:Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:56:29 -0400

Assunto:Re: Theos-World G.Tillett & ER

> Carlos, how did u discover the existence of this ER for "the very few"? 
> If you can mention it to us, ok, if not, I understand.
> Marie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: carlosaveline@terra.com.br
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> Sent: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:01 AM
> Subject: Theos-World G.Tillett & ER
> 
> Dear MKR,
> 
> I agree.
> 
> The E.R. is kept as a would-be secret theurgic practice, something for 
> "the very few", although devoid of any true sense of sacred energy, in 
> fact.
> 
> Regards, Carlos.
> 
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> Data:Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:49:19 -0500
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World G.Tillett & ER
> 
> > I have been around theosophical circles in India for several decades 
> and
> > during all that time I never heard about the rite.
> >
> > The first time I learnt about it in Tillett's book and to this day no 
> one
> > has disputed what he had mentioned. Of course some light on the 
> existence is
> > shed by Internet maillist. One more instance of the power of Internet 
> in
> > disseminating info internationally!
> >
> > mkr
> >
> > On 10/9/06, carlosaveline wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > > This text by G. Tillett, brought to us by Daniel (thanks, Daniel), 
> is
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > To this one should add that the "Rite" works as an "occult trap", a
> > > political device to control the movement from within, something 
> whose
> > > existence most members of the Adyar Esoteric School (including 
> third degree
> > > pledged) don't even know about.
> > >
> > > I wonder why "historical researchers" like Katinka Hesselink and 
> John
> > > Algeo do not write about this clandestine ritualistic control of 
> the Adyar
> > > Movement, started in the 1910s/1920s and based on the clairvoyant 
> fancies of
> > > CWL.
> > >
> > > This is a major stumbling block in the way for the Adyar Movement 
> to "go
> > > forward to Blavatsky" -- and to truthfulness.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Carlos.
> > >
> > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> > >
> > > Egyptian Rite
> > > May 26, 2005 06:59 PM
> > > by gregory
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > > This text, brought by Daniel (thanks, Daniel...), is iseful. To it 
> one
> > > should add that the "Rite" works as an occult trap, a political 
> device to
> > > control the movement from within.
> > >
> > > Having received a number of e-mails requesting further information 
> on the
> > > Egyptian Rite after my reference to it in a previous posting, it 
> seems
> > > more
> > > efficient to post the following summary of part of a paper I am 
> writing on
> > > the
> > > history of this group:
> > >
> > > The Egyptian Rite was developed between 1929 and 1930. Leadbeater 
> planned
> > > that
> > > the Egyptian Rite would draw together the angels associated with 
> Church
> > > ceremonial, and those of Co-Masonic working, and in this he claimed 
> the
> > > encouragement and inspiration of the Master The Count, who is 
> claimed to
> > > have
> > > assisted in the drafting of the rituals. The rituals were originally
> > > compiled
> > > by Wedgwood, since he was said to have a special relationship with 
> The
> > > Count.
> > > However, Leadbeater did not like the results, and submitted them to
> > > Arundale
> > > for revision. The final work was said to constitute "the most 
> powerful
> > > occult ritual in the world".
> > > The published ER Ritual was formally issued on Christmas Day, 1931,
> > > bearing
> > > the imprimatur of Mrs Besant as Grand Master.
> > > The ritual of the Egyptian Rite begins with the three stages of the 
> Temple
> > > of
> > > the Quest - Fire, Form and Life. By the conclusion of these it was
> > > originally
> > > taught that the candidate would be on Probation (in Leadbeater's 
> scheme of
> > > occult development). Various "mystic words" were communicated to
> > > candidates in
> > > the different degrees: for example, in the First Stage the word was 
> Vir (=
> > > vita igne renovator), in the Second Stage Fas (= forma animae 
> serva) and
> > > Via
> > > (= vehimur in atum), and in the Third Stage Vita (= voluntas intus
> > > transformatur amore). Likewise, various mystic signs were 
> communicated to
> > > the
> > > candidate: for example, the Sign of Order (the right hand on the 
> heart).
> > > After completing the Temple of the Quest, the candidate is then 
> ready to
> > > advance to the fourth stage, the Temple of the Rose and the Cross. 
> Once
> > > accepted as the chela of a Master he can go on to the fifth stage, 
> the
> > > Outer
> > > Temple or Temple of the Dawn, followed by the sixth stage, the Inner
> > > Temple or
> > > Temple of the Star. The sixth stage is "The entry into the Inner 
> Temple
> > > itself, the Temple of the Star, the service of which is restricted 
> to
> > > members
> > > of the Great Brotherhood of Light - from the youngest Initiate to 
> the
> > > Masters,
> > > Lords, Princes, Rulers of Light; nay, to the very King Himself. 
> These are
> > > the
> > > Brothers of Light."
> > > These are the degrees to be worked by the members, and above them 
> is the
> > > seventh stage, the Sovereign Sanctuary of the Masters of the Light, 
> the
> > > governing body of the ER (originally Besant, Arundale and 
> Leadbeater).
> > > Beyond
> > > that is the Great Hierarchy.
> > > Sri Ram sent a circular to all members of the 4th, 5th and 6th 
> stages in
> > > April, 1954, declaring that in future those admitted above the 3rd
> > > stage "should not be presumed to be necessarily in the Occult 
> stages to
> > > which
> > > these stages of the Egyptian Rite may be said to correspond." Sri 
> Ram made
> > > certain modifications to the ritual to reflect this change.
> > > It is said that the current head of the ER, Radha Burnier, has 
> closed down
> > > all
> > > but the Temple of the Quest.
> > >
> > > Dr Gregory Tillett
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Data:Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:56:04 -0000
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> > > Assunto:Theos-World Gregory Tillett on the Egyptian Rite
> > >
> > > > See:
> > > >
> > > > http://theosophy.com/theos-talk/200505/tt00698.html
> > > >
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