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Smart Daniel against Dallas Tenbroeck

Nov 01, 2006 01:02 PM
by carlosaveline


Daniel,


Really  'smart' of you to discuss with Dallas, since he is not here to respond any longer. 

Carlos. 





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Data:Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:58:24 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Invisible or Silent Editing of H.P. Blavatsky's Books

> The Invisible or Silent Editing of H.P. Blavatsky's Books 
> 
> Dallas once wrote on Theos-Talk:
> 
> ======================================================
> If you wish I can give you as an example the little book that
> the Adyar Theosophical Publishing House issued under H.P.Blavatsky's
> name as PRACTICAL OCCULTISM It is one of the articles she wrote.
> If you have a copy then compare it with the same article you have
> reprinted by the U.L.T. in OCCULTISM OR RAJA-YOGA. The U.L.T.
> is verbatim from H.P.Blavatsky's original article -- remember
> proof reading it myself years ago. The ADYAR version has been
> heavily edited. . . .
> 
> In U.L.T. I don't have to worry -- the originals are available on a
> reliable basis . . . . Personally I would rather deal with
> H.P.Blavatsky's 'mistakes' than with those created by others who have
> had the temerity to believe they knew better than she did, and had
> the audacity to introduce changes which she did not authorize. . . .
> ==============================================================
> 
> On another occasion, Dallas also wrote:
> 
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> The only valid reason for using the ORIGINAL, without the
> interposition of a commentator, editor, "filter," is that the
> student need not try to double-guess the changes in meaning that
> such an intermediary might impose in terms of his/her own
> understanding. In fact those alterations might be precisely
> those that today no longer agree with the original terms H.P.B.
> used.
> 
> The DIRECT CONTACT with the original enables the students to make
> his own mistakes, if he does. Then they are his, only, and he
> cannot blame an intermediary....
> 
> Personally, I have a great pity for those who have made
> alterations and invisible editing in such an important work. I
> include all who may have done this in my mind. On the opposite
> hand: I feel gratitude for those who have offered "corrections
> needed in the ORIGINAL" and that they think will be helpful to
> students, but who have been careful to IDENTIFY and FOOTNOTE
> their changes so that the said student has a choice.
> 
> By what amounts to "concealing" those changes made in the
> ORIGINAL (yet using the Original Title) and thus tacitly
> attributing those new and interposed changes to the Author - who
> has had no chance to agree to them -- they may have blurred or
> obscured some meanings. Just how important those altered
> meanings and changes are, need not be a subject for restudy if
> one deals with the ORIGINALS to begin with....
> ===========================================
> 
> In the above texts, Dallas defines what he calls "invisible editing"
> and what others have called "silent editing."
> 
> Dallas also explains why the student should go to ORIGINALS of HPB's
> works instead of to EDITED versions of her writings.
> 
> In light of the above definition of INVISIBLE or SILENT EDITING,
> the following 4 works are ALL products of such invisible or silent
> editing:
> 
> (1) The so-called Besant-Mead edition of HPB's SECRET DOCTRINE
> is a product of "silent editing" for when compared with the original
> 1888 edition, the later Besant-Mead edition has
> numerous "changes", "corrections" and "deletions."
> 
> (2) The de Zirkoff edition of HPB's SECRET DOCTRINE is also clearly
> a product of "invisible" editing and contains
> numerous "changes", "corrections" and "deletions." Examples of the
> silent editing in this work has been shown by Tony Maddock, Peter
> Merriott, John Drais and Walter A. Carrithers, Jr. Some of these
> changes were posted at Theos-Talk.
> 
> (3) The Theosophy Company's edition of the HPB's VOICE OF THE
> SILENCE is also clearly a product of invisible or silent editing.
> Dr. H.N. Stokes first reported this in the pages of his O.E. LIBRARY
> CRITIC. Peter Merriott and Tony Maddock have written about this
> silent editing in previous years both on the Theos-Talk discussion
> forum and the Blavatsky Net discussion group. Specific examples
> showing that invisible or silent editing has occurred in this
> Theosophy Company edition can be found at:
> 
> http://theos-talk.com/archives/199810/tt00044.html
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/11902
> 
> (4) The work titled A MODERN PANARION (a collection of HPB's
> articles) is also a product of INVISIBLE or SILENT editing. Some
> examples of this can be found at:
> 
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/modernpanarion.htm
> 
> IN SUMMARY:
> 
> BOTH the Adyar Theosophical Society/Theosophical Publishing House
> and the The United Lodge of Theosophists/Theosophy
> Company have published editions of H.P.B.'s writings which are
> clearly examples or products of invisible or silent editing.
> 
> That is, in the various publications listed above, an editor has
> made editorial changes, corrections, deletions, etc. in the "new"
> edition and readers of the new edition will NOT be able to discern
> those editorial changes unless he takes the time and effort to
> compare said edition with HPB's original edition.
> 
> And in addition, the Adyar Society / publishers should NOT be
> scapegoated as the ONLY Theosophical group/publisher to issue
> such "silently edited" editions of H.P. Blavatsky's writings.
> 
> Furthermore, if Carlos Aveline can point out that the Adyar
> Theosophical publishers have published this kind of "silent
> editing", then would it not be fair and straight forward of Carlos
> to admit that the Theosophy Company has ALSO published
> such "silently edited" works?
> 
> I write all of the above to FULLY INFORM interested readers,
> especially new students, inquirers, etc. concerning this particular
> issue.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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