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Russia & Ukraine: Konstantin

Nov 04, 2006 07:24 AM
by carlosaveline


Konstantin,


Thanks for the  valuable info. 

I think you are basically right about Marxism - and Stalinism is its worst, no doubt.  ( Trotskites never involved themselves with any State Power since 1926; they make the  'best' variety of Marxism in a way,  but they are still narrow and blind enough. ) 

Good to know about Yugoslavia. 

Other questions, somehow included in a previous message: 

1) What about Boris de Zirkoff? Do you people know his work and his Russian origin? 

2) Do you people in Ukraine/Russia have any link to any Point Loma group, or to the Pasadena TS, or to any group of Blavatsky/Judge students?  Would such a contact be interesting? 

3) Does anyone there question CWL's  ritualisms and clairvoyance, relying more on HPB's  than in his books? 



Regards,  Carlos. 






 


 
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Data:Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:55:32 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: Still Russia & Ukraine

> Dear Carlos,
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" wrote:
> 
> > In Cuba, the Adyar TS exists and has been well tolerated. 
> 
> I know. I think that one of the reason is that Catholic Church is very 
> strong there, as in many countries of Latin America, and Theosophical 
> Society was an inconsiderable factor comparing to the church. Another 
> factor was a southern mentality which has no tendence to the strict 
> rules. For example free love existed in Cuba in amount impossible for 
> USSR. From the other hand, in GDR the idiologic dictate was even more 
> severe than in USSR, as Germans tend to the order and follow the rules 
> strictly.
> 
> Another socialist country which tolerated theosophy was Yugoslavia.
> 
> > And Stalinism has more than one element in common with Nazi-Fascism
> 
> Yes, the concentration camps were first introduced in USSR, and only 
> later in Nazi Germany.
> The communist leaders also overscore nazis by the number of victims. 
> The absolute champion was Mao, the relative champion (by percentage of 
> the victims to overall population) was cambodoan dictator Pol Pot. 
> Their crimes were so great that they were admitted by USSR authorities 
> and regarded a deviation from the right communist line.
> 
> Some information about life of theosopists in USSR is contained in the 
> following lecture:
> http://www.theosophy.ru/fateruss.htm
> 
> The Russian theosophical history in beginning of 20th century and in 
> exile after the revolution is briefly reviewed here:
> http://www.theosophy.ru/kamensky.htm
> 
> > A question: was it only under Gorbachev that the theosophical 
> movement re-started in Russia/Ukraine?
> 
> Yes; moreover, it was during the last year of his rule when he was 
> actually losing the power. Nevertheless the separate underground 
> groups of theosophists existed during all 20th century. I know one 
> very old lady who attends our meetings when her health permits her, 
> who was introduced to theosophy in 1930's.
> 
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