Re: Theos-World No Clash of Civilizations
Nov 09, 2006 03:34 PM
by Cass Silva
Did I miss the election? When were you authorised to be the voice of Theosophy?
Cass
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Friends,
Israeli writer Amos Oz has been writing for a number of years that the real Middle East conflict is not between Arabs/Muslim and Jews/Israel. The real conflict it is between the intolerant radicals (Arabs and Jews united in that quest for bloodshed), and open-minded, peace-loving people (Arabs and Jews also united in the quest for peace).
Theosophy can only agree with that.
Carlos.
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Data:Thu, 09 Nov 2006 06:06:02 -0000
Assunto:Theos- World No Clash of Civilizations
> Dear Friends,
>
> Maybe this interview will be interesting for some:
>
> Memri TV
> Clip No. 1050
>
> Arab-American Psychiatrist Wafa Sultan: There is No Clash of
> Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages
> and That of the 21st Century.
>
> Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American
> psychiatrist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on
> February 21, 2006.
>
> Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a
> clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash
> between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a
> mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that
> belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and
> backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between
> barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and
> oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between
> human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on
> other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts,
> and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not
> a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.
> [...]
> Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a
> clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and
> ignorance of the Muslims?
> Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.
> [...]
> Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was
> it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to
> discuss this issue, if you don't mind...
> Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this
> expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of
> civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: "I was ordered to fight the
> people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger." When the
> Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called
> to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves
> believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to
> stop this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula,
> which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.
> My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs.
> What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other
> people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he
> calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People of
> the Book," and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or
> he calls the Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you
> that they are "People of the Book"? They are not the People of the
> Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books
> that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative
> thinking. What gives you the right to call them "those who incur
> Allah's wrath," or "those who have gone astray," and then come here
> and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the
> beliefs of others?
> I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being.
> I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to
> believe in it.
> Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?
> Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human
> being who does not believe in the supernatural. ..
> Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in
> rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet,
> and the Koran...
> Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.
> [...]
> Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't
> throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other
> people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the
> Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let
> people have their beliefs.
> [...]
> Wafa Sultan: The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust),
> and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with
> their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity
> owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th
> centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered
> throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and
> knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German
> restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have
> not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have
> turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single
> Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy.
> Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches,
> killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield
> any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for
> humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
>
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