Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00664)

Thank you Jake,

You are the only one that responded to my request. When I read this  
quote in our class on the Key that we have here in Kent, WA, a few  
things were clarified to me. For example, we know that the spiritual  
EGO is Manas illuminated by Buddhi and Atma. This is what  
reincarnates. HPB calls that EGO also Sutratma, which in reality is  
the string of incarnations goes through its spiritual evolution. The  
implication is that the EGO is the samething as Its spiritual path.

The analogy is that when you or I enter the spiritual Path ultimately  
we become that Path.

As above so below.

Thank you for helping me close this case. I appreciate it.

Rudy

On Nov 11, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Mark Jaqua wrote:

> Re: Wed Nov 8 Thought for the Day
>
> R. Don quotes from the "Key to Theosophy":
>
> <"....as the bee collects its honey
> from every flower, leaving the rest
> as food for the earthly worms, so
> does our spiritual individuality,
> whether we call it Sutratma* or
> Ego. Collecting from every terrestrial
> personality, into which Karma
> forces it to incarnate, the nectar
> alone of the spiritual qualities
> and self-consciousness, it unites all
> these into one whole and emerges from
> its chrysalis as the glorified Dhyan
> Chohan. So much the worse for those
> terrestrial personalities from which
> it could collect nothing. Such personalities
> cannot assuredly outlive consciously their
> terrestrial existence."
> <.....I would like
> to see discussions generated. There is
> important information in this single paragraph.>
>
> Well, as far as I know, the "Sutratma or
> "Spiritual Ego" referred to is based in the
> personal monad, and is not the same thing
> as the "guardian angel" or manasaputra that
> each person is supposed to be overshadowed by.
> We add the "essence" from each incarnation
> to the wealth of understanding, so to
> speak, of our own spiritual ego or Self.
> The buddhic and Higher manas aspects.
> Experience is generally all lower quaternary,
> or mundane, and there isn't anything very
> spiritual about it. So it must be the
> personal insights we generate from this
> experience, which is a higher manas or
> buddhic essence or overview of the whole
> process which is garnered by the Spiritual
> Ego, and not the mundane experience itself.
> 'And you can't generate these insights
> unless you maintain a latent, at least,
> link with ones higher nature throughout
> a personal life.
>
> - jake j.
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> <2. Wed Nov 8 Thought for the Day
> Posted by: "Rodolfo Don" rrdon27@earthlink.net rrdon27
> Date: Wed Nov 8, 2006 12:55 pm ((PST))
> This is an excerpt from The Key to
> Theosophy pp. 167-8. It explains
> the spiritual EGO and its multiple
> incarnations. I would like to see
> discussions generated. There is important
> information in this single
> <paragraph. For example:
> What is the difference between the
> spiritual individuality and every
> personality that the Ego creates ?
> Why are so important all these diverse
> personalities ? Some pleasant,
> some unpleasant...
> <What is the result after the Ego
> concludes with its pilgrimage ?
> Thank you
> Rodolfo Don
> <"The spiritual Ego of man moves in
> eternity like a pendulum between
> the hours of birth and death. But
> if these hours, marking the periods
> of life terrestrial and life spiritual,
> are limited in their
> duration, and if the very number of
> such stages in Eternity between
> sleep and awakening, illusion and
> reality, has its beginning and its
> end, on the other hand, the spiritual
> pilgrim is eternal. Therefore are the
> hours of his post-mortem life, when,
> disembodied, he stands face to face with
> truth and not the mirages of his transitory
> <earthly existences, during the period of
> that pilgrimage which we call "the
> cycle of re-births"--the only reality
> in our conception. Such intervals, their
> limitation notwithstanding, do not prevent
> the Ego, while ever perfecting itself,
> from following undeviatingly, though
> <gradually and slowly, the path to its
> last transformation, when that Ego,
> having reached its goal, becomes a divine
> being. These intervals and stages help
> towards this final result instead of hindering
> it; and without such limited intervals
> the divine Ego could never reach its
> ultimate goal. I have given you once
> already a familiar illustration by comparing
> <the Ego, or the individuality, to an actor,
> and its numerous and various incarnations
> to the parts it plays. Will you call these
> parts or their costumes the individuality
> of the actor himself? Like that actor, the
> Ego is forced to play during the cycle of
> necessity, up to the very threshold of
> <Paranirvana, many parts such as may be
> unpleasant to it. But as the bee collects
> its honey from every flower, leaving the
> rest as food for the earthly worms, so does
> our spiritual individuality, whether we
> call it Sutratma* or Ego. Collecting from
> every terrestrial personality, into which
> Karma forces it to incarnate, the nectar
> <alone of the spiritual qualities and
> self-consciousness, it unites all these
> into one whole and emerges from its chrysalis
> as the glorified Dhyan Chohan. So much the
> worse for those terrestrial personalities
> from which it could collect nothing. Such
> personalities cannot assuredly outlive consciously
> their terrestrial existence.
> Sutratma = one of the meanings of Sutratma
> is the string of incarnations that the Ego
> goes through. Think of it as a "spiritual
> <path" for the Ego.>
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