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Re: Theos-World Freedom of Speech

Nov 28, 2006 03:47 PM
by Cass Silva


Well Carlos, I think you have totally misunderstood the teaching.
HPB tells us that Atoms are called "vibrations" in Occultism; also "Sound" collectively.  S.D.Volume 1

If an explanation of electricity can be given, it is that its mystery lies only in vibrations.  Vibrations are productive and produce electricity; electricity is composed of vibrations.  It depends upon the speed of the vibrations as to whether a thing is visible or audible, perceptible or imperceptible.  This means that everything has its sound and its form.  Even things which are perceptible by us though not visible have a form.  In the first place they could not be intelligible if they had no form; although they have no physical form they have a form just the same, and it is through that form that we can perceive them. Hazrat Inayat Khan

If this is the case then all planes of existence vibrate at different rates, if we can attune ourselves to the vibration on a particular plane then we will be able to access it.

You obviously have pulled this idea out of your head as I can not find any reference to it in Isis or SD.  If you are going to pontificate on Theosophy please get the teaching right.

Cass

carlosaveline <carlosaveline@terra.com.br> wrote:                                  Cass,
 
 I prefer let you think by yourself. 
 
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 Data:Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:16:58 -0800 (PST)
 
 Assunto:Re: Theos-World Freedom of Speech
 
 > Where did HPB refer to this Carlos?
 > To MKR's notes below, I would add that HPB considered pure and simple electricity as referring to the lower levels of astral light.
 > 
 > It is clear to me now that Internet and its 'electronical universe' is dealing with human Akasha as a whole. 
 > 
 > Cass: The internet is simply a medium for thought. Like thoughts attract Like thoughts. Are you suggesting that as our thoughts are now globalised and perhaps more pluralised that the Akasa is affected?
 > 
 > Cass
 > 
 > carlosaveline wrote: Friends,
 > 
 > To MKR's notes below, I would add that HPB considered pure and simple electricity as referring to the lower levels of astral light.
 > 
 > It is clear to me now that Internet and its 'electronical universe' is dealing with human Akasha as a whole. 
 > 
 > In the Aquarius Era, begun in 1900, things are "in the air". They are global. They can change quickly. Each individual can make a lot of difference, if he takes full responsibility for his decisions and actions.
 > 
 > Saturn, the Teacher of Time and Responsibility, is the co-regent for Aquarius; and it was its sole regent in ancient Astrology. 
 > 
 > In these new times, freedom of speech is far more than a meaningless institutional motto -- for those who will pay the price. 
 > 
 > Regards, Carlos. 
 > 
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 > Data:Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:37:57 -0600
 > 
 > Assunto:Re: Theos-World What is theft?
 > 
 > > But for Internet providing a platform for free speech, free thoughts, etc.
 > > is something like what happened when printing was invented. Add to this is
 > > the access to videos in cell phones etc. makes capture and communication of
 > > info so easy.
 > > 
 > > Old-timers, many of those who grew up in pre-computer days and had lifelong
 > > experience in structured and hierarchical/military type environment where
 > > control of flow of information are at a loss how to move with times and deal
 > > with the new environment. [There are a few exceptions like those who
 > > participate in this and other forums on varied topics.] This is shown by
 > > many leaders in and out of all organizations, espouse the idea of freedom of
 > > thought, free speech etc in live lectures and print writings (again a
 > > controlled medium), you will rarely see them in the internet forums. [I even
 > > had the unique experience of dealing with a well known theosophical
 > > personality who while all the time talking and writing about Internet,
 > > always made it a point of responding to my fax messages by replying by laser
 > > printed responses by snail mail with all the additional cost and time
 > > involved.] Until and unless they come up to speed and deal with the
 > > realities of information age, the Internet juggernaut is going to run over
 > > them.
 > > 
 > > In the past, details of issues such as one one we are dealing with, would be
 > > unknown to the individuals at large due to lack of vehicle to disseminate
 > > info. This worked to the advantage of those who did not want the info to be
 > > known outside their limited circle for reasons of their own.
 > > 
 > > As for publishing, I forsee in the future most material moving to electronic
 > > media and hope the authors bypassing the publishing houses with all their
 > > overhead and time delay. There have been some movement in this arena with
 > > on-line publishing and I know of a school system where no one is provided
 > > with printed books anymore; all students are provided with a notebook and
 > > all texts are accessed in electronic medium, thus saving a lot of text book
 > > cost to students.
 > > 
 > > Many here are tuned in and would be interested in further details of the
 > > episode under discussions.
 > > 
 > > mkr
 > > 
 > > PS; I recall there was a statement in ML, that human nature in Adyar is same
 > > that in London streets. So nothing should surprise anyone.
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > On 11/26/06, samblo@cs.com wrote:
 > > 
 > > > I have no idea how many stayed or left in that context. I
 > > > will always choose free speech, free thoughts, freedom to have perceptions
 > > > of
 > > > realitlie(s) in accordance of what actually did exist and take place
 > > > particular
 > > > to Theosophy which must include the real interactions that actually
 > > > happened
 > > > in the fullest understanding I can find (subject to augmentation based
 > > > upon new
 > > > truths that I come to know).
 > > >
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