Theos-Talk Archives (April 2007 Message tt00008)

Hello Friend and all.
I wish I could say my view on the subject.
I agree with you Perry.
It´s a very delicate matter.
Just enlarging the subject, imho, the more you are attached to sexuality as much as all the animal processes the less the person can -  if we can thus consider something -  be considered higher in a "spirituality status"
Why?
I see it not like a prejudiced measurement, but when a soul starts the spiritual path, the first things that he will deal with are the attachments, the passions and all the processes that links him to the animal the stinctive side, these are all attachments.
An evolving soul that has reached the spiritual path will naturally dettach from all the things that pulls him to the opposite side of spirituality.
Soul cannot unify Itself with the higher Self while It keeps lower desires as all the animal forces such as infactuation, gluttony...etc and all kinds of exaggerations or fondnesses.
Sexuality has nothing of human, it´s organic and animal.
As long as we are not prepared to live behind all material knowledge, desires and intelectuality and have an only desire of being impregnated with the divine awareness, we´ll be still linked to Samsara, to the jorney of live and die until we are awakened in a later moment.
So, many may say that if, for example, one gives sex a very high status in life, or a sex with the same genre,  can not acquire a high spiritual status. Because these are also attachments.
And that can be continued from one life to another untill soul has reached a point that is awakened.
I gess that´s true.
But there is nothing preventing a homossexual of attaining enlightenment in a later life, in which all the sexual needs with are extinguished.
The karma law, the prarabdhakarma is very pacient but unfalible.
What I also mean that I think that there are many facts that delays human evolving to spirituality, sexuality and homossexuality, lack of compassion, hate, are just examples.
Sex has to do with kundalini and there are many sources about the misusage of this force in literature.


Krishtar





  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: plcoles1 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:07 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Homosexuality


  How can we even pretend to be able to measure something like the 
  spiritual status of someone based purely on their sexual orientation.

  It seems to me the height of arrogance to imply that homosexuals are 
  inferior as spiritual beings and that being a heterosexual makes us 
  somehow superior.

  Nature's processes are not always immediately apparent or known by us.
  Theosophy teaches Compassion and loving all beings, so did the Buddha.

  Perry 

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Bhikshuni Ariya 
  <buddhism_in_india@...> wrote:
  >
  > BUDDHA REFUSED HOMOSEXUALS.
  > 
  > SO DO I.
  > 
  > Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@...> wrote:
  > Dear David,
  > 
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "davidbeamish_25" wrote:
  > 
  > > How great a sin is homosexuality according to Theosophy?
  > 
  > I think that there's no sin according to theosophy but there's non-
  > constructive waste of energy.
  > 
  > > Is it worse than murder in terms of karma?
  > 
  > Surely not.
  > 
  > > Is homosexual action in lust different than a heterosexual action 
  in
  > > lust?
  > 
  > Probably somewhat different, for a "heterosexual action in lust" is 
  > just a step down on a scale of nature, yet quite natural as a 
  > heritage of an animal kingdom. From the other hand some say that 
  > homosexuality has its origins in sexual overstimulation during 3rd 
  > root race, or even in the Moon Chain.
  > 
  > > Is it true that a homosexual cannot ever move into the 6'th root
  > > race,
  > 
  > I think that the personality is homosexual, not the Higher Self; 
  but 
  > it's the latter moves into 6th root-race, not the personality.
  > (Some say that there could be such trivial reasons for 
  homosexuality 
  > as being woman in the last incarnation).
  > Moreover, there are still many centuries AT LEAST before 
  inauguration 
  > of the 6th race, so there are many incarnations before all of us to 
  > make ourselves fit to 6th race till it will really come.
  > 
  > There were one or two homosexuals in this list; maybe they shall 
  give 
  > more qualified answers.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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