Theos-Talk Archives (May 2007 Message tt00057)

Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't this Stanza relate to conditions pre-manifestation.
  Cass

danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Stanzas of Dzyan in THE SECRET DOCTRINE
and Cosmological Notes from A. P. Sinnett's MS. Book
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I give below STANZA I of the Stanzas of Dyzan as found on p. 27 of 
Vol. 1 of THE SECRET DOCTRINE:

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1. THE ETERNAL PARENT WRAPPED IN HER EVER INVISIBLE ROBES HAD 
SLUMBERED ONCE AGAIN FOR SEVEN ETERNITIES. 
  
2. TIME WAS NOT, FOR IT LAY ASLEEP IN THE INFINITE BOSOM OF DURATION. 
  
3. UNIVERSAL MIND WAS NOT, FOR THERE WERE NO AH-HI TO CONTAIN IT. 
  
4. THE SEVEN WAYS TO BLISS WERE NOT. THE GREAT CAUSES OF MISERY WERE NOT, FOR THERE WAS NO ONE TO PRODUCE AND GET ENSNARED BY THEM. 
  
5. DARKNESS ALONE FILLED THE BOUNDLESS ALL, FOR FATHER, MOTHER AND SON WERE ONCE MORE ONE, AND THE SON HAD NOT AWAKENED YET FOR THE NEW WHEEL, AND HIS PILGRIMAGE THEREON. 
  
6. THE SEVEN SUBLIME LORDS AND THE SEVEN TRUTHS HAD CEASED TO BE, AND THE UNIVERSE, THE SON OF NECESSITY, WAS IMMERSED IN PARANISHPANNA, TO BE OUTBREATHED BY THAT WHICH IS AND YET IS NOT. NAUGHT WAS. 
  
7. THE CAUSES OF EXISTENCE HAD BEEN DONE AWAY WITH; THE VISIBLE THAT WAS, AND THE INVISIBLE THAT IS, RESTED IN ETERNAL NON-BEING -- THE ONE BEING. 
  
8. ALONE THE ONE FORM OF EXISTENCE STRETCHED BOUNDLESS, INFINITE, CAUSELESS, IN DREAMLESS SLEEP; AND LIFE PULSATED UNCONSCIOUS IN UNIVERSAL SPACE, THROUGHOUT THAT ALL-PRESENCE WHICH IS SENSED BY THE OPENED EYE OF THE DANGMA. 
  
9. BUT WHERE WAS THE DANGMA WHEN THE ALAYA OF THE UNIVERSE WAS IN PARAMARTHA AND THE GREAT WHEEL WAS ANUPADAKA?
  Cass: Nowhere and Everywhere
   
  A good friend was kind enough to provide her knowledge on Stanza IV
  Sloka 3: Gives the occult number, the 31415=14 or 2x7, the complete number of the Forces in Nature, a double seven because of the duality.
  Sloka4: voice,speech and breath in relation to the creative power of sound are important and stimulating to thought.
  Stanza V Introduces the One Force, Fohat. Stanzas 1Vand V are closely related and each deals with a different aspect of the manifestation of the Cosmos.  Whereas Stanza IV deals mainly with the agencies of creation and the numerical and geometrical structure of the Cosmos, Stanza V is mainly concerned with the Force by which it is sustained.
  Stamzi VI Our World,its growth and development
  This Stanza up to the end of Sloka 4 deals with the creation of the Seven Elements which are the substance of the seven planes of our scheme,within which is the cyclic pattern of evolution of worlds and globes is played out.
   
  Stanza VII-The parents of man on earth (Anthropogenesis)
  When the One becomes two, the threefold appears.  This statement refers to when the One Darkness is permeated by the Ray of Primordial Light that lights the whole manifested universe. Chaos becomes male/female and water, incubated through Light, produces the threefold being which "appears" as the First Born.
  All of the above are expanded in my notes which I am happy to share, but we are talking about pages and pages of typewritten notes.
   
  Cass
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Now notice what HPB writes in the SD, vol. 1, p. 23:

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It is almost unnecessary to state that only portions of the seven 
Stanzas are here given. Were they published complete they would 
remain incomprehensible to all save the few higher occultists. Nor is 
there any need to assure the reader that, no more than most of the 
profane, does the writer, or rather the humble recorder, understand 
those forbidden passages. To facilitate the reading, and to avoid the 
too frequent reference to foot-notes, it was thought best to blend 
together texts and glosses, using the Sanskrit and Tibetan proper 
names whenever those cannot be avoided, in preference to giving the 
originals. The more so as the said terms are all accepted synonyms, 
the former only being used between a Master and his chelas (or 
disciples). 

Thus, were one to translate into English, using only the substantives 
and technical terms as employed in one of the Tibetan and Senzar 
versions, Verse I would read as follows: --- 

"Tho-ag in Zhi-gyu slept seven Khorlo. Zodmanas zhiba. All Nyug 
bosom. Konch-hog not; Thyan-Kam not; Lha-Chohan not; Tenbrel Chugnyi 
not; Dharmakaya ceased; Tgenchang not become; Barnang and Ssa in 
Ngovonyidj; alone Tho-og Yinsin in night of Sun-chan and Yong-grub 
(Parinishpanna), &c., &c.," 

which would sound like pure Abracadabra. 
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Here HPB gives us some of the actual Tibetan and Senzar terms which 
she then translated into English. See beginning of this posting.

Some readers may have noticed that some of these Tibetan, etc. terms 
are ALSO to be found in the Cosmological Notes from A. P. Sinnett's 
MS. Book which can be read at:

http://blavatskyarchives.com/CosmologicalNotes.htm

A careful comparison of what I have cited above throws a great deal 
of light on the subject matter under discussion.

For example, we have:

Tho-ag in Zhi-gyu slept seven Khorlo

HPB translates this as:

1. THE ETERNAL PARENT WRAPPED IN HER EVER INVISIBLE ROBES HAD 
SLUMBERED ONCE AGAIN FOR SEVEN ETERNITIES.

And following this:

Zodmanas zhiba. All Nyug bosom.

HPB translates this as.....

But enough for now.

See David Reigle's BLAVATSKY SECRET BOOKS, chapter on "Notes on 
Cosmological Notes", pp. 57-71 and also chapter on "Technical Terms 
in Book of Dzyan Stanza I", pp. 72-81. Book can be purchased at:

http://blavatskyarchives.com/wizardsrecomm.htm

Daniel
Blavatsky Study Center
http://hpb.cc



         

       
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