Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00091)

"When the activities of the self are explored and understood, then 
there is imperishable ecstasy".
- J. Krishnamurti


"Meditation is not the repetition
of the word, nor the experiencing
of a vision, nor the cultivating
of silence. The bead and the word
do quieten the chattering mind, but
this is a form of self-hypnosis.
You might as well take a pill."
-- J. Krishnamurti


Change outside of the field of thought... 
"You have changed your ideas, you have changed your thought, but 
thought is always conditioned. Whether it is the thought of Jesus, 
Buddha, X, Y, or Z, it is still thought, and therefore one thought 
can be in opposition to another thought; and when there is 
opposition, a conflict between two thoughts, the result is a 
modified continuity of thought. In other words, the change is still 
within the field of thought, and change within the field of thought 
is no change at all. One idea or set of ideas has merely been 
substituted for another.Seeing this whole process, is it possible to 
leave thought and bring about a change outside the field of thought? 
All consciousness, surely, whether it is of the past, the present, 
or the future, is within the field of thought; and any change within 
that field, which sets the boundaries of the mind, is no real 
change. A radical change can take place only outside the field of 
thought, not within it, and the mind can leave the field only when 
it sees the confines, the boundaries of the field, and realizes that 
any change within the field is no change at all. This is real 
meditation."
?J. Krishnamurti


"Meditation 
is like the breeze that comes in when you leave the window open; but 
if you deliberately keep it open, deliberately invite it to come, it 
will never appear.
The quality of possessiveness
must never enter into meditation, for meditation has no root, nor 
any substance which the mind can hold.
The seeing is not a determined effort. There is no 'I will see', but 
only seeing. Observation puts aside the observer, and in this there 
is no waste of energy.
I don't know if you have ever
tried to die to something which is very close to you and which gives 
you immense pleasure - to die to it, not with reason, not with 
conviction or a purpose, but just to die to it as a leaf falls from 
the tree."
- J. Krishnamurti

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