Re: Theos-World -Tibet and Tulku about HPB
Jan 17, 2008 02:41 PM
by Augoeides-222
Hmmm,
Now a really skilled person should be able to train all the frogs and micey's to sing and harmonize together and have them sing all the old Point Loma Songs they sang there in those days long ago. A CD of their Songs would be a perfect Fund raiser for needy Theosophical Societys.
Regards,
John (tongue in cheek lol)
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com>
Yes Laughing ,not only the frogs will do.Mice are not of the party
Lol Bye bye Christina
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Let us know if the Frogs and Mice start marching out of your pond
Christina, a sign of the apocalypse! lol
> Cass
>
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
> Yes, most people think young plants on which you see
after eating
> little long blades, mouses or rabbits are doing that, but that is
> wrong seeing, snails can eat plants so quickly that you see next
day
> blades of the plant.
> So I discovered the brown frog, only brown ones are eating snails.
> So for that the problem is away in our surroundings.Now we have
> harmony and snails are left only eat the leaves or other parts of
the
> plant what has fallen down.Now we keep every young plant
untouchable.
> Also the harmony in frogs is there, for cats eating them if there
> will come too much of them.
>
> Every spring I have about 12 brown couples in my ponds.Realy nature
> is beautiful, only people need to keep harmony in it.Neighbours
> sometimes make troubles for the frogs coming in the homes, but I
> learn them to put them out and not to kill them, for the cats take
> care if there afre coming too much.
> But also frogs learn in their surroundings, now I never find one in
> the house for my garden is full of plants,fruit and also two kayaks
> in which they find a warm place in winter.My cat like them very
much
> and mostly go to play with them.Realy wonderful to see.
> Christina
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Christina I did not read properly
> > ¡ You have brown frogs in your garden to eat the snails!
> > This is fantastic, I´ve never heard something like that in my
> life. It has to be wanderfull at nigth time. You Dutch people are
> really unic.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> >
> > Raquel
> >
> > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > Dear Raquel, you don't bore me at all.
> > I can feel that time with you, so you explain it very well.
> > That must have been round about 30- 50 years ago.Now everywhere
we
> > have electric,central heating and gaz also.
> > I have worked and lived in Scheveningen in a street near the sea
in
> a
> > big house near my pharmacy.
> > By means I have had two houses, one in the middle of the
> Netherlands
> > which was my official residance.The one in Scheveningen was the
> upper
> > part of a double house.There are near the sea such houses.
> > I would have bought this house totally, but the owner sold it for
> the
> > same price to another.It had to be so.
> > Better, for after my holidays in Egypt for a month after coming
> back,
> > the problems started in the pharmacy.After me the best nice
> collegue
> > went on holidays and the others go to make very much problems to
> me,
> > because of their jalousy.They let me work with an old lazy one,
> while
> > they get ill, but they were not, but they played like that.
> > So in a meantime I was overworked and came ill too.From that time
I
> > stayed away from them and happely never give up my own residance
> for
> > whatever, me in this way, will overcome in life.So I returned to
> the
> > middle of the country and pick up my life here.In the same place
I
> > went to a bigger new house with nice garden and which I builded
up
> > from a meaddow into paradise with fruittrees and ponds with lotus
> and
> > brown frogs, who eat the snails.Otherwise snials eat all the
young
> > plants. Here I live now for 15 year, no one lived here before.Me
> and
> > my neighbours are the first humans on this ground as far as we
live
> > for the time now.
> > More exciting is , that years before I came here I have seen an
UFO
> > in the air under which I have my house now.Some people will not
> > believe, but it could not have been an helicopter, for that
cannot
> go
> > criss cross from left to right moving in the air.It was a blue
> > lighted one.On my work they said, did not you stop and go out
your
> > car to look. No , I drove slower and and got to look especially
to
> > its way and from one side to the other side it was moving, so I
> could
> > not see wrong.Later I read in newspaper, that some cars on the
> > highway lost energy for a while without any reason.That was a
> > miracle, but I knew better.
> >
> > Charming the tot sinz und slaap leker.
> > Yes, ook goede nacht en slaap lekker
> > Christina
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I lived four years in Den Haag, at the Junostraat, an
> > industrial area leading with Rijswijk and Noorwijk, but shame I
´ve
> > never learn the language properly, just for doing shopping and
> asking
> > for direction on the street. I used to make my income, modeling
at
> > the art school and other small jobs like teaching juggling to
kids
> on
> > schools, or juggling dance on private parties.
> > > I never meant to stay so long, There were my twenties, I
arrived
> > with a rucksack on my back a juggling sticks on my hand and many
> > questions about my own existence and there I found Theosophy with
> all
> > it´s answers.
> > > I remember very first time The SD felt on my hands. I was with
a
> > friend of mine on a second hand bookstore having a look to a
naive
> > horoscope book with many colorful drawings reading something
about
> > Aquarius hear moving on the air and saying "what a nice book",
when
> > this friend of mine, said " this is a nice book" and placed
between
> > my hands the SD. By no means I felt any attraction about such a
> heavy
> > condense book, but not to be unpolite I open it and have a look
to
> > the table of contest.
> > > This very moment marks a before and a after in my life. There
in
> > front of my very eyes where answers to all the questions that I
> had.
> > I could immediately recognise even the questions I did not know I
> > had, but she had given name.
> > > Vertigo would be a word to describe what I felt.
> > > On that time I could not even read the little prince in
English,
> > But I bought the book, take it home and not being able to afford
a
> > dictionary I went on reading it strait away. I used to stare at
the
> > words and read sentences and paragraphs over and over, until by
the
> > context I would get the meaning of the word.
> > > Now I have a good dictionary with me, but most of the time I
keep
> > using this old tecnic
> > > The house I lived in, was a little typical dutch two floors
house
> > with a garden on the back, that belonged to an old car company.
> > > The house was builded for the workers of the company and had
been
> > abandoned for several years. The owner aloud as to skuot it until
> he
> > sells the whole company.
> > > On this street there were just factories, car companies, a
> > political refugee center, a coffee shop on a boat at the canal
and
> my
> > little square brick house with huge windows and a glass door with
> > lace courtains. During the day track, noise and dust. At night
time
> > all was closed and the families of the refugee center used to go
> out
> > for a little walk and the street became full with calm
> conversations
> > in all foreign Asiatic and African languages and songs. The men
> used
> > to sing to each other as in conversation.
> > > We had no electricity but gas and water and a light ball on the
> > toilet that we made work with a car battery. I used to spend long
> > time locked in my room lighted with candles reading this book,
> > looking at the abyss of consciousness. Surrounded by exotic signs
> > > What a beautiful time. I think the desire to understand that I
> > had, was what really worked the best, as tecnically, with the
> > knowlege of english I had, reading such a book would have been
> almost
> > imposible.
> > > Nevertheless suddenly four years where gone and I decided to
> > settle, go to school to learn the language properly and find a
> proper
> > job. I inscribed myself on school, came for a little holidays to
> > Spain to see my family and never came back, but to visit some
> friends
> > now and then.
> > >
> > > I hoped I did not bore you with all this. I have such magical
> > regards of that time.
> > > Still I want to learn Dutch and German also, they are dear
> > languages to my ear, it is one of my future projects.
> > >
> > > Tot sinz und slaap leker
> > >
> > > Raquel
> > >
> > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > Hi Raquel, so you have lived in Den Hague.How many years?
> > > And have you learned our language?
> > > I also try to read all TS stuff in English, for it is a
language
> > most
> > > countries use.But in times before people did not learn very
well
> in
> > > schools.For the time now, we see on television lot of American
> > films
> > > and can visit BBC, so easier for us.
> > > And after a year following discussions here, also one learn to
> use
> > it
> > > better.
> > > We are as the Masters, they also have had few vocabulary,
> > especially
> > > Morya, he wrote in one of his letters to Hume.Otherwise he
could
> > > explain himself very claer.And that is it.
> > >
> > > Here in our country we have a lot of old theosophists, near 70
or
> > > elder, they also cannot read or understand the English.
> > >
> > > Some books I think , were used a lot of strange English words.
> > > Then one needs to use the dictionary more than he should like
to
> do.
> > > That is no peasure I can tell you.But we learn every day more.
> > > There are words I need to find again and again, I cannot keep
in
> my
> > > mind, but sure everybody will have that.
> > > Hope you liked the work in Spanish from prof Nehru.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
<raquel_rpj@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Christina
> > > > Thank you again for details, I did no know that was the first
> > > edition, of the SD, nevertheless, the printing house, Sirio it
is
> > > almost correct, but not the best.
> > > > I know Theosophical Society in Spain has good translations
and
> > > printings, I´ve already downloaded a few books from their web
> site.
> > I
> > > ´m not a registered member of the TS, and the bit I know of
their
> > > work in this country is through Internet, again for the bit I
> have
> > > search, they have material enough for a live time study if one
> has
> > > interest.
> > > > It is very easy in your country to find both, good
translations
> > > and books in English. What happens is, as most Spanish don´t
> speak
> > > English, the books that are not translated are not also to
sell,
> as
> > > far as I know. .They might be in Barcelona, Madrid or Valencia,
> but
> > I
> > > have not been there yet and Granada is a dessert for books.
> > Sometimes
> > > searching for a book, the salesman would tell me they don´t
print
> > > this book anymore, so he would not have to bother to find it
out
> > for
> > > me.
> > > > I menage reading in English, to my surprise, luckily better I
> can
> > > talk or write.
> > > > I began my studies of Theosophy in your country when I was
> living
> > > in The Hague, when I came back to south Spain I was so
> disappointed
> > > of the lack of information I could find, I do not mean that
there
> > is
> > > not, it is just hard to find.
> > > >
> > > > A few pages from Internet have proof to be very reliable to
me,
> > > as Amazon and
> > > > Health Research. I was so happy when I got my first book
> shipped
> > > after so many years coming across with nothing, I can not
> explain.
> > At
> > > one point I was not happy with the publishing house and I ask
to
> > > return the book. They refund me the money and ask me to keep
the
> > book
> > > as the price of shipping back was prohibitive, still I agree
with
> > > you, I would better walk down the shop and have a look for
> myself,
> > > even shafe the money of shippings that many times are more
> > expensive
> > > than the books themselves.
> > > >
> > > > The link you send me looks very interesting, but I could no
> > > executed for some reason, however, I thing at the moment I´ll
> keep
> > > reading in English and buying through internet, till I have a
> > little
> > > holiday to Barcelona. I really miss to get in to a non digital
> > > Theosophical shop.
> > > >
> > > > Happy New Year
> > > >
> > > > Love and Ligth to All beings
> > > >
> > > > Raquel
> > > >
> > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > Reaquel the SD you have is the earliest publishing , for
> > > that time
> > > > there were 7 volumes.
> > > >
> > > > In our center and publishing house in Amsterdam we have all
te
> > books
> > > > , but I don't think we have digitalized so much as Canada has
> > done.
> > > > Indeed we can be happy with the work they have done there.
> > > > Also in our country we have good translations, but nothing to
> be
> > > > found on internet.Not one book.
> > > > And if we see some interesting books for low prizes on
> internet,
> > we
> > > > cannot take risk for paying and afterwards not getting that
> books.
> > > > I think all loges need to have the most important books on
> table
> > > for
> > > > sale.Also in your country are people translating the books
into
> > > > Spanish.If you visit yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/
> > > divya-
> > > > jnana/?yguid=162317756 here prof Nehru has translated his
work
> > into
> > > > Spanish.You can find after membership in files.
> > > >
> > > > Christina
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
> <raquel_rpj@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Christina for the advise.
> > > > > I agree with Theosophical Publishing House, but Spanish
> > > > Theosophical shops in Spain are too far from Granada.
> Impossible
> > to
> > > > buy it here, once I ask to a friend that traveled to
Barcelona
> to
> > > get
> > > > me The Secret Doctrine, and he came back with seven books of
a
> > > rather
> > > > bad quality printing, not as bad as Kessinger.
> > > > > I have to say, I have never seen by myself a Theosophical
> shop
> > in
> > > > Spain, they are not as common as in Holland. Also many books
> are
> > > not
> > > > translated in Spanish, and books in English are not easy to
> find.
> > > > > In Den Haag library, you can find books, of every subject
in
> > > > every language, this is very different here. In Granada´s
> library
> > I
> > > > could not find not one book related to Theosophy. Apart all
the
> > > > inherent knowledge attached to this city by the history of
> > > > civilizations, I thing Granada has not jet recover from the
> burn
> > of
> > > > the books carried by inquisition and the strong repression of
> 40
> > > > years of a military ditadura.
> > > > > Thanks to the Internet I can have an essay approach to
> certain
> > > > books. Although I rather walk to the shop and handle the book
> by
> > > > myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Raquel
> > > > >
> > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > > Raquel.
> > > > > Better buy it from the Theosophical Publishing House.Adyar.
> > > > > I have it from 1966 first edition bought from our
Publishing
> > > house
> > > > in
> > > > > Amsterdam, they ordered from Adyar long time ago I think,
for
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > it for half a year.In Spain you will also have
possibilities
> to
> > > get
> > > > > from Adyar.
> > > > > Books ordered from internet we have bad experiences, for
they
> > let
> > > > pay
> > > > > you and never send the books.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Raquel Rodríguez
> > <raquel_rpj@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found this if anyone is interested.
> > > > > > Tibet and Tulku first edition from 1966.
> > > > > > http://www.antiqbook.com/books/
> > bookinfo.phtml?o=bookc&bnr=13250
> > > > > > I wish I could buy it, but I am too delayed on my
homework.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Raquel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> escribió:
> > > > > > John, have you read from the Caves,jungles of Hindustan
> > > > > by the hand
> > > > > > of HPB,as Radda Bai.
> > > > > > I think in Russian she had expressed totally, but her
niece
> > > > > > translated the stories into English.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wonderful the story "An Island of mystery".
> > > > > > The orchest; the gigantic sirka reeds(vina- devi)and the
> > > bamboos,
> > > > > > some musical fantasy born of the howling and whistling of
> the
> > > > wind.
> > > > > > A horrid fancy haunts the bewildered heads, the image
that
> the
> > > > > > invisible artists strain the veins and not the strings of
> > > > imaginary
> > > > > > violins. Real fun that Olcott thought that Gulab-Singh
> caused
> > > > that
> > > > > > phenomonon and had no idea it was natural acoustic caused
> by
> > > the
> > > > > wind.
> > > > > > I would have been there too!
> > > > > > Also I can understand Barborka's pity to turn away from
> Caves
> > > and
> > > > > > jungles and the talentful writings from HPB's pen.
Tomorrow
> I
> > > buy
> > > > > > that book. Realy great such entertainment.
> > > > > > Christina
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > Thanks for your comments and reply. Well, I don't want
to
> > > give
> > > > > > the impression that I have any special knowledge of how
> this
> > > was
> > > > > > effected on H.P.B. what I say is only my personal
opinion.
> > > First
> > > > I
> > > > > > hold the view that the Seventh Atmic and Sixth Buddhic
> > > Principals
> > > > > are
> > > > > > both Transcendental immutable unchangable and beyond the
> > > ability
> > > > to
> > > > > > effect of even Mahatma or Dhyana Buddha for even they are
> > > > > > Personalizations. So what remains that is not of
> > Transcendental
> > > > > State
> > > > > > are the five lower Principles the Sthula, Prana, Linga,
> Kama,
> > > > Manas
> > > > > > (divided of upper and lower mind). I believe it was one
of
> > > these
> > > > > that
> > > > > > was separated and retained during her Initiations in
Tibet.
> > > > > According
> > > > > > to Tibet and Tulku one thing this facilitated when the
> > ability
> > > to
> > > > > > communicate to a higher permanent degree with her at all
> > times
> > > > and
> > > > > > to allow the direct use of her vehicle when desired. Her
> > Astral
> > > > > Bell
> > > > > > that she always heard on the current signaling the
approach
> > or
> > > > > > nearness of her Masters or a special important message. Pe
> > > > > > > rhaps it also was a mechanism that made possible her
> > ability
> > > to
> > > > > > make use of Akashic Records to read and transcribe
directly
> > the
> > > > > > literary contents she placed in her works. In addition it
> is
> > > said
> > > > > > that by retaining the Principle her Oath of Silence was
> > > insured,
> > > > > for
> > > > > > to violate it would cause permanent loss to her of this
> > > Principle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is some indication that the Ancient Egyptian also
> had
> > > > some
> > > > > > type of knowledge in this matter regarding the "Shabti"
and
> > > > > > energization that permitted unique interface with the
> > > individual
> > > > in
> > > > > > works that are not Theosophical and deal especially with
> > > Egyptian
> > > > > > Matters only.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The depth and breath of the contents of Tibet and Tulku
> are
> > > too
> > > > > > deep and complex to explain like this. But my eyes were
> > opened
> > > on
> > > > > > many, many things that directly apply to how the Masters
> > > project
> > > > > > their Image and Mind, send messages, make use of a chela
> > > remotely
> > > > > and
> > > > > > so many other modes that are a unique ability of the
> Mahatma
> > or
> > > > > full
> > > > > > Adept. When H.P.B. spent five weeks exteriorized from her
> > > > physical
> > > > > > body where else but in Tibet and Tulku are the further
> > allowed
> > > > > > details found about this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This work will always remain with me and in my library
it
> > > > offers
> > > > > > deep understanding and explanations not found in any
other
> > > > > > Theosophical works. At the time I first purchased my
> > hardbound
> > > > > > edition from a rare book dealer I was very deeply
involved
> in
> > a
> > > > > most
> > > > > > phenomenal UFO Case in 1976, I was experiencing many
things
> > one
> > > > can
> > > > > > only read about in H.P.B.'s life --- conversant real time
> > > > > telepathy,
> > > > > > apportment of objects by the UFO Experiencer, Astral
bells
> > > > ringing
> > > > > on
> > > > > > a regular basis, and much more! I was looking for
something
> > > that
> > > > > > might explain who was the "Projector", how was it done,
how
> > can
> > > > > they
> > > > > > change time itself? And I found excellent correlates in
> Tibet
> > > and
> > > > > > Tulku no where else have I found this important
instructive
> > > > content
> > > > > > in more than 32 years. It was one of the things that
caused
> > me
> > > to
> > > > > > find Theosophy many years ago.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > Sorry, it is not the language, it is me.I read it too
> > quickly
> > > > and
> > > > > > > think directly, better forget the thinking by
reading.And
> I
> > > had
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > one on WinLive messager, so too much.Later when I read
> > again
> > > I
> > > > > saw
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > say the right thing they pointed out on page 144.
> > > > > > > But indeed how they could take off one of the lower
> > > principles,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > she would have been not completed by herself.Possibly
she
> > was
> > > > not
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > for that they give her the 7th and take off the motive
> for
> > > > talk,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > part of the fifth away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Opera browser have problems with this group, for all
this
> > > > > messages
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > not there.I opened in my other browser.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have the book for some months, so I have not read all.
> > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. We must have a language
thing
> > > here.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > said they retained One of the Seven Principles of her
> > Economy
> > > of
> > > > > > > Being. I didn't say which one. You through translation
> > > between
> > > > > > English
> > > > > > > and Dutch missed my true meaning. But thanks for you
> reply
> > I
> > > am
> > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > that you have read T.T. , I thought if anyone has it
> would
> > be
> > > > you
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > the thought was a truth.
> > > > > > > > I appreciate your response and comments. My point was
> to
> > > give
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > expanded basis for accounting for some of the
> peculiarities
> > > > > observed
> > > > > > > in Madame Blavatskys behaviors that create such a
> negative
> > > > > response
> > > > > > > towards her.This was asked about by members here. How
> many
> > > > people
> > > > > > > could do otherwise if they were missing one of the
> necessary
> > > > > > > Principles of Wholeness of Being? I don't want to
> predefine
> > > > from
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > own views for others so I hope they will read Tibet and
> > Tulku
> > > > and
> > > > > > > benefit. The Tulku are the Sky Walkers and Nirmanakaya
> from
> > a
> > > > > > Tibetan
> > > > > > > view. I got a kick when I first watched Star Wars and
the
> > > Hero
> > > > was
> > > > > > > Luke Skywalker who had a real Skywalker ( Obe 1 kenobi)
> as
> > > his
> > > > > > Mentor
> > > > > > > (a correlate metaphor for the Mahatma). In my view I
was
> > > greatly
> > > > > > > helped in grasping many things one reads of in the
> History
> > of
> > > > her
> > > > > > life
> > > > > > > and without the explanations detailed in this Book I
> would
> > > > never
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > had the expanded view on how the "Communication"
actually
> > > takes
> > > > > > place
> > > > > > > between the Brothers and Blavatsky and others
> > > > > > > > and the several different modes that are used in
> > different
> > > > > forms.
> > > > > > > You having read it know this, it will always be with
you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > > Thank you , for you the same wishes and that the
world
> > may
> > > > have
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > peace.Especially the people on it.
> > > > > > > > NASA is realy great and does not earn people write
> stupid
> > > > books
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > them.Here we have Delft and Eindhoven , which
> technology
> > > they
> > > > > > share.
> > > > > > > > Now we produce a new collapsible bookreader, which we
> can
> > > use
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > > easy and also can be weared in GSM's. Easy to take
with
> > > you,
> > > > > put a
> > > > > > > > card reader or readingUSB stick in it and you have a
> > total
> > > > from
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > than 160 gig to take with you.Very handy.All
> theosophical
> > > > books
> > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > minute .It reads better than from a book for it have
a
> > > better
> > > > > > reading
> > > > > > > > field and have special light, better for the eyes.
> > > > > > > > This year we bring it on the market.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have read pag 143/4 - 363/4/5 in my book T and T
from
> > > > > Barborka.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Her emotional expression is one of the square
> underlying
> > > > > > principles,
> > > > > > > > so normally and (why they take the seventh principle
> > > ?),that
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > bring a disaster to her and the world, they never
> should
> > do
> > > > > that.
> > > > > > > > That you have read wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > She needed to prepare the way for mankind.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And the fact of the 7 th principle in the complete
> human
> > > > > > being.That
> > > > > > > > is the point.Otherwise the human being is not
complete
> > and
> > > a
> > > > > > danger
> > > > > > > > for himself and others.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > She needed to show and exercizing the siddhis of the
> 6th
> > > > > > principle in
> > > > > > > > human, so she could warn us for the danger in them.As
> we
> > > all
> > > > > know
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > can do good with the Ajna developement, but also do
> wrong
> > > > with
> > > > > > it. It
> > > > > > > > is the heaviest power we have.For that she must have
> had
> > > the
> > > > > > seventh
> > > > > > > > principle , otherwise she would fallen down into and
> > > staying
> > > > in
> > > > > > that 6
> > > > > > > > principle and a danger, if no control from the 7
> > > > th.Sahasrara.
> > > > > > > > The 7(sahasrara) and the 6(ajna) are to be needed to
> stay
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > higher mind and come out of the lower mind.That is
what
> I
> > > > know.
> > > > > > > > But she lived in a time of no developement like we
have
> > now
> > > > and
> > > > > > most
> > > > > > > > people were very crazy of mediumship and spiritism.If
> > that
> > > > > should
> > > > > > go
> > > > > > > > on, we would have the atlantis from the past, better
we
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > post
> > > > > > > > atlantic period now and the possibility to turn back
to
> > > > > spiritual
> > > > > > > > developement, which brings wisdom, wealth and
happines.
> > > > > > > > That is what jezus predicted , the kingdom of god,
the
> > > > kingdom,=
> > > > > > > > nothing outside, but inside ourselves; the total
> > > developement
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > human to become human, human with Divinesoul,
> > Spiritualsoul
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > Humansoul, Atma,Buddhi,Manas in one person, the UNITY
> > > working
> > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > 4 lower principles, all together.All need to be
> > > > perfected.That
> > > > > is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > way.And happely we have not all the same,
psychophysical
> > > > > > > > conditionsThan we would be like the UNOX sausage.
> > > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > > > > > Hi and Happy New Year to you. Thanks for the neat
> > useful
> > > > > links
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > NASA they are really great archives. I agree with you
> NASA
> > > > > > > > historically has had many, many other Nation Partners
> > then
> > > > and
> > > > > > today
> > > > > > > > also. Like The ESA of the European Union, The
Japanese
> > > Space
> > > > > > Agency,
> > > > > > > > The Australian Partnership that Tracking and Data
> Receipt
> > > > > Station
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > still there now and has recently been engaged in
> > providing
> > > > the
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > services as it did during the Apollo Missions among
> > others.
> > > > We
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > have Brazilian and other South American Partners in
> Space
> > > and
> > > > > many
> > > > > > > > tracking Stations all over the World with the
complete
> > > > consent
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > agreement of the Governments of many Nations.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The entire World sat rapt in utter amazement and
> > watched
> > > and
> > > > > > > > listened to the Moon Missions and the Moon landings.
> All
> > > over
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > world the media received and recorded it at each and
> > > everyone
> > > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > TV Stations and Radio Stations of the "FREE WORLD"
that
> > > > > > rreceivedand
> > > > > > > > resent the live signal out to their populace! The
> > exception
> > > > > were
> > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > behind the Iron Curtain of the Soviet EMPIRE and the
> > other
> > > > > > hegemony of
> > > > > > > > the Communist Ghouldom!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > These Redactionists of history invent strawman and
> red
> > > > herring
> > > > > > > > issues for political agendas even today they just
> cannot
> > > > accept
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > lost WWII and they lost the Cold War and they will
> always
> > > > remain
> > > > > > > > losers to rational people anywhere on earth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, when I posted about pages 143-44 of Tibet and
> > Tulku
> > > is
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > > because i wanted to point to what was done to H.P.B.
by
> > the
> > > > > > Brothers
> > > > > > > > -----they removed 1 of her seven principles from her
> and
> > > > > retained
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > in their keeping to serve several purposes, the
result
> of
> > > > this
> > > > > is
> > > > > > seen
> > > > > > > > in her personality and temperament.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > > > > From:
"christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@>
> > > > > > > > > Cass,
> > > > > > > > > I think, the NASA( are not only Americans)and also
> work
> > > in
> > > > > > > > > company with Swiss can have LOL about all the
stupids
> > on
> > > > > > > > > earth.
> > > > > > > > > Why you think you have INTERNET
> > > > > > > > > Why you think we have solar cells to warm the
houses?
> > > > > > > > > Why you think we have digital camera's and all kind
> off
> > > > stuff
> > > > > > > > > we can use now and with pleasure if you use it well.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then what they go to find out more.I keep silent!I
> will
> > > see.
> > > > > > > > > Christina
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva
> > > <silva_cass@>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Trouble is Christina, I don't trust NASA
> > > > > > > > > > Cass
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > For people want to know more see:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Slides 8x8 made by Hasselblatt camera by
Armstrong
> or
> > > > Aldin.
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> > ch14-
> > > > > 4.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From there you can f ind a lot of stuff they give
> for
> > > > > seeing.
> > > > > > > > > > Most pictures are made by
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/apollo/
> welcome.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.ksc.nasa.gov/history/apollo/apollo.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/
Apollo204/
> > > > > crew.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/
Apollo204/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4204/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4214/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4205/
> > > > cover.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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