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Re: Theos-World Theosophical Traditions & New Students of Theosophy

Feb 13, 2008 02:33 PM
by Martin


Second best:

Amazing moment the world's biggest Christ was struck
by lightning

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513855&in_page_id=1811&in_page_id=1811&expand=true#StartComments





--- Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ha, it actually represented some topics at hand at
> the
> moment in this forum:) I should have looked for a
> saviour vid, lol
> 
> 
> --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Loved it, but what has it to do with Krishnamurti?
> >   Cass
> > 
> > Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >           Well check this vid out :-)
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo
> > 
> > --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > At this stage Morten, I will give him the
> benefit
> > of
> > > the doubt, as I have never read anything from
> him
> > or
> > > about him that states he believed he was an
> > Avatar. 
> > > Yes, he was schooled by Besant and Leadbeater to
> > be
> > > the next messiah, but I believe he saw the
> > hypocricy
> > > in this and his advaitism that he walked away.
> > > 
> > > His last video shows that he died angry and that
> > > he felt his life's mission had failed.
> > > 
> > > Cass
> > > 
> > > Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
> > > wrote:
> > > To all readers
> > > 
> > > My views are justmy views:
> > > 
> > > Aaaaargh Cass.
> > > 
> > > I thought you read my recent thread and emails
> at
> > > Theos-l forum about Krishnamurti?
> > > 
> > > Krishnamurti called himself an Avatar in his
> > > writings and allowed officially to announced
> being
> > > such a creature, no doubt there. Although he
> > > officially rejected the thought of being a
> saviour
> > > who needed followers and fanatics when alive and
> > > when dead, - he very well knew what the
> endresult
> > > would be if he did not deny being a Messiah.
> When
> > he
> > > in his young age allowed Annie Besant to
> announce
> > > him as the Maitreya for four years before he
> > > dissolved The Order of The Star in the East, -
> he
> > > INDEED created what he needed. 
> > > 
> > > His Adwaita Vedanta teachings was not and is not
> > > anything new, and are and was not the best
> > teachings
> > > available. Sure Advaita is not for everyone. Yet
> > > each an everyone will one day learn its esoteric
> > > teachings in one form or another.
> > > 
> > > M. Sufilight
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: Cass Silva 
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Traditions
> &
> > > New Students of Theosophy
> > > 
> > > If you have read Krishnamurti, Morten, you will
> > see
> > > that he did not see himself as a saviour, rather
> > the
> > > opposite. As HPB brought the ancient teachings
> to
> > > the 20th century, Krishnamurti brought Advaita
> > > philosophy to the 21st century. Advaita is not
> for
> > > everyone, I have heard that it is a quicker
> route
> > > but fraught with pitfalls.
> > > 
> > > Cass
> > > 
> > > Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Allow me to repeat a short exerpt from the below
> > > with words by HPB:
> > > 
> > > "The Secret 
> > > Doctrine, original edition, Vol. I, p. viii.
> > Italics
> > > added. 
> > > 
> > > "... A new and rapidly growing danger...is
> > > threatening...the spread 
> > > of the pure Esoteric Philosophy and
> knowledge....I
> > > allude to those 
> > > charlatanesque imitations of Occultism and
> > > Theosophy....By pandering 
> > > to the prejudices of people, and especially by
> > > adopting the false 
> > > ideas of a personal God and a personal,
> carnalized
> > > Saviour, as the 
> > > groundwork of their teaching, the leaders of
> this
> > > 'swindle' (for such 
> > > it is) are endeavoring to draw men to them and
> in
> > > particular to turn 
> > > Theosophists from the true path." E.S.
> Instruction
> > > No. I., 1890 
> > > edition, p. 2. Italics added."
> > > 
> > > Eureka! Let the fanatics, Krishnamurti followers
> > and
> > > similar saviour-worshippers listen to that one.
> > > 
> > > M. Sufilight
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: nhcareyta 
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:39 AM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Theosophical Traditions &
> New
> > > Students of Theosophy
> > > 
> > > There are at least a dozen different
> Theosophical
> > > "traditions" 
> > > or "schools" based on the claims of various
> > > prominent individuals in 
> > > the modern Theosophical Movement. 
> > > 
> > > H.P. Blavatsky (1831-1891) was the first person
> in
> > > modern times to 
> > > write about the Theosophical Adepts, especially
> > the
> > > Masters Morya and 
> > > Koot Hoomi. 
> > > 
> > > Madame Blavatsky wrote:
> > > 
> > > " . . . I was the first in the United States to
> > > bring the existence 
> > > of our Masters into publicity; and . . . exposed
> > the
> > > holy names of 
> > > two members of a Brotherhood hitherto unknown to
> > > Europe and America 
> > > (save to a few mystics and Initiates of every
> > age),
> > > yet sacred and 
> > > revered throughout the East, and especially
> India
> > .
> > > . . . " "The 
> > > Theosophical Mahatmas." The Path, December,
> 1886.
> > > 
> > > But after H.P.B.'s death in 1891, we find
> numerous
> > > claims of contact 
> > > with the same Adepts. See a list of persons
> making
> > > such claims.
> > > 
> > > These various claims are dependent on Mme.
> > > Blavatsky's original 
> > > statements and testimony. 
> > > 
> > > For example, if H.P.B. was a fraud, her Masters
> > > fictional characters, 
> > > and her teachings false or simply made up and/or
> > > borrowed from 
> > > genuine previously existing religious and
> esoteric
> 
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