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Re: Theos-World Re: [theos-l] How to win a Presidential Election

May 04, 2008 09:37 AM
by Martin


HAHAHA, you are full of fun, a real Theosophist I
would say. HPB would haved hugged you :-)


--- Drpsionic@aol.com wrote:

> There isn't enough food in the world for 500,000
> HPBs!? And can you imagine what would happen if they
> all decided to have a convention?? The entire
> gravitic constant of the Universe would change!
> 
> Chuck the Heretic
> 
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 4 May 2008 9:01 am
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [theos-l] How to win a
> Presidential Election
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My view is this whole debate about leadership is
> bull.
> The Mc.Cain note I made was meant sarcastically, its
> how the world is run these days: not cooperate? we
> bomb the shit out of you...
> I think we need at least 500000 HPB's to get our
> acts
> together here on earth, else it is goodbye
> tada..next.
> 
> --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > My views are:
> > 
> > I disagree.
> > I cannot agree theosophically with those who make
> > war dependent on how good their energy policy are
> > running. Can you?
> > 
> > - - - - - - -
> > 
> > A Silver Star medal
> > 
> > Vietnam War. This war was a bad war. One of
> leaders
> > of the American civil rights movement Martin
> Luther
> > King Jr. in fact said a few wise words about it in
> > 1967:
> > 
> > 
> > Martin Luther King Jr.: "Why I Am Opposed to the
> War
> > in Vietnam"
> > "Now, let me tell you the truth about it. They
> must
> > see Americans as strange liberators. Do you
> realize
> > that the Vietnamese people proclaimed their own
> > independence in 1945 after a combined French and
> > Japanese occupation. And incidentally, this was
> > before the Communist revolution in China. They
> were
> > led by Ho Chi Minh. And this is a little-known
> fact,
> > and these people declared themselves independent
> in
> > 1945. They quoted our Declaration of Independence
> in
> > their document of freedom, and yet our government
> > refused to recognize them. President Truman said
> > they were not ready for independence. So we fell
> > victim as a nation at that time of the same deadly
> > arrogance that has poisoned the international
> > situation for all of these years. France then set
> > out to reconquer its former colony. And they
> fought
> > eight long, hard, brutal years trying to
> re-conquer
> > Vietnam. You know who helped France? It was the
> > United States of America. It came to the point
> that
> > we were meeting more than eighty percent of the
> war
> > costs. And even when France started despairing of
> > its reckless action, we did not. And in 1954, a
> > conference was called at Geneva, and an agreement
> > was reached, because France had been defeated at
> > Dien Bien Phu. But even after that, and after the
> > Geneva Accord, we did not stop. We must face the
> sad
> > fact that our government sought, in a real sense,
> to
> > sabotage the Geneva Accord. Well, after the French
> > were defeated, it looked as if independence and
> land
> > reform would come through the Geneva agreement.
> But
> > instead the United States came and started
> > supporting a man named Diem who turned out to be
> one
> > of the most ruthless dictators in the history of
> the
> > world. He set out to silence all opposition.
> People
> > were brutally murdered because they raised their
> > voices against the brutal policies of Diem. And
> the
> > peasants watched and cringed as Diem ruthlessly
> > rooted out all opposition. The peasants watched as
> > all this was presided over by United States
> > influence and by increasing numbers of United
> States
> > troops who came to help quell the insurgency that
> > Diem's methods had aroused. When Diem was
> > overthrown, they may have been happy, but the long
> > line of military dictatorships seemed to offer no
> > real change, especially in terms of their need for
> > land and peace. And who are we supporting in
> Vietnam
> > today? It's a man by the name of general Ky [Air
> > Vice Marshal Nguyen Cao Ky] who fought with the
> > French against his own people, and who said on one
> > occasion that the greatest hero of his life is
> > Hitler. This is who we are supporting in Vietnam
> > today. Oh, our government and the press generally
> > won't tell us these things, but God told me to
> tell
> > you this morning. The truth must be told." (
> Sermon
> > at the Ebenezer Baptist Church on April 30, 1967)
> >
>
http://husseini.org/2007/01/martin-luther-king-jr-why-i-am.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So what is going on today?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Martin 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [theos-l] How to win
> > a Presidential Election
> > 
> > 
> > This is how to win it:
> > 
> > "My friends, I will have an energy policy which
> > will
> > eliminate our dependence on oil from Middle East
> > that
> > will then prevent us from having ever to send our
> > young men and women into conflict again in the
> > Middle
> > East."
> > 
> > Sen.Mc Cain
> > 
> > --- MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > When I see what is going on, I came across a
> > cite
> > > from Ernest Wood's book ==
> > > "Is this Theosophy?" which appears relevant. He
> > ran
> > > in the election in which
> > > George Arundale was elected as President to
> > succeed
> > > Annie Besant. Here is
> > > the cite:
> > > 
> > > "In the very end of the book Wood writes:
> > > 
> > > The new President, Mr. Arundale -- he now
> > dropped
> > > the use of his title of
> > > Bishop outside the church activities, as he ahd
> > > announced his intention to
> > > do so -- or Dr. Arundale, if we are to recognize
> > the
> > > honorary degree
> > > conferred upon him by the short-lived National
> > > University -- wrote me that
> > > his intentions were to pursue a thoroughly
> > liberal
> > > policy. I could not
> > > congratulate him on his election, considering
> 
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