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Re: Theos-World Failure of J. Krishnamurti on the Path of Occultism

May 04, 2008 03:19 PM
by Martin


Adelasie,

indeed, however being a good person doesn't
automatically mean being a good human.
Persona means mask and how good people look and
behave, one should always be critical in reflection to
oneself.
Yes we are eachothers teachers and pupils as well,
since we all are in the boat of humanity and we have
to be very carefull not to have it sink when there is
a hurricane phat lady singing the blues.
HPB was an awfull person, yet an outstanding human
being. In a way she reflected the materialistic world,
ugly on the outside, but the world behind this
materialism being a beatifull pearl.
As I said before in some other response:

S-ince I understand we all are one but not the same
W-e live our lives, no-one to blame
A-ll being the One to address to in Love and in Hate
B-ittered and enlightened at any rate
H-ence we struggle day by day, night after night
A-ll we see is but a tiny Light
V-astly expanding our spiritual Sun 
A-nd tearing down our personality
T-o give and give for all Humanity

Martin






--- adelasie <adelasie@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Martin,
> 
> Interestingly enough, bell bottom pants and beads do
> make a comeback 
> from time to time. But, having lived in the
> Haight/Ashbury during the 
> "Summer of Love," I would have to say that it was
> way "too hot not to 
> cool down." It was pure idealism, and we know that
> our material world 
> does not gladly welcome that. Nevertheless, it is
> certainly possible 
> that there are more people in the world who believe
> in Brotherhood 
> today than ever before. It may be the golden edge of
> the dawn of a 
> new age that we can sense impinging on the horizon,
> like the faint 
> glow before the dawn of each new day. There is a lot
> to go through as 
> the beast of the dying age of materialism and
> selfishness thrashes 
> its way to oblivion, but the hippies prefigured
> something that will 
> indeed arrive on earth, sooner or later. Imagine how
> thrilling to 
> realize that each one of us can be a part of that
> promise fulfilled, 
> just by being the best person we can be in our daily
> lives. 
> 
> Adelasie
> 
> On 4 May 2008 at 12:19, Martin wrote:
> 
> > It came to pass...and forgot to stay I would add!
> > 
> > The Illusion Pralaya KH spoke of in the ML is
> about to
> > end soon and a golden age was forecasted...
> > With the first line of this reply in mind, one
> could
> > say this Illusion Pralaya to be followed by a real
> > Pralaya is in the line of expectation, however a
> never
> > before thing is about to happen. Something  can't
> > describe since I can't picture it yet, however my
> > gutfeeling is prety up to date telling me:
> ''...it's
> > full of stars..''
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- adelasie <adelasie@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Certainly hippies were a part of some pretty
> deep
> > > cultural changes 
> > > that happened in the 1960's, but there are other
> > > causes suggested 
> > > too, perhaps not mutually exclusive at all but
> > > interesting to 
> > > consider. It is said that the great leaders of
> the
> > > native peoples of 
> > > the world, on the American Continent as well as
> from
> > > Hawaii and 
> > > Australia/New Zealand, all received the impulse
> at
> > > the same time to 
> > > tell the rest of the world about their visions
> and
> > > secret knowledge, 
> > > in an effort to avert the global catastrophe
> that
> > > was impending as a 
> > > result of humanity's continued inhumanity to all
> > > nature and all life. 
> > > They met and a prediction was made that young
> people
> > > would adopt a 
> > > new life style, based on love and brotherhood,
> wear
> > > beads and fringe 
> > > and bright colors, grow their hair and shun the
> > > trappings of 
> > > "civilized" appearance, and that they would be
> > > called hippies. This 
> > > prophesy was made in the 1950's and indeed, it
> came
> > > to pass.
> > > 
> > > Adelasie
> > > 
> > > On 4 May 2008 at 17:34, Anand wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Krishnamurti always asked people to live in
> the
> > > present
> > > > without worrying about past and future.
> > > Krishnamurti started teaching
> > > > around 1928. By 1960 his ideas were known to
> large
> > > number of people in
> > > > America and other countries. I am getting a
> > > feeling that hippie
> > > > movement in America, which started in 1960s
> was
> > > result of philosophy
> > > > Krishnamurti preached. I think hippie movement
> has
> > > root in
> > > > Krishnamurtian way of thinking. What is your
> > > opinion ? Below I am
> > > > giving information about hippie movement. It
> is
> > > taken from wikipedia. 
> > > > 
> > > > " Hippies rejected established institutions,
> > > criticized middle class
> > > > values, opposed nuclear weapons and the
> Vietnam
> > > War, embraced aspects
> > > > of Eastern philosophy,[5] championed sexual
> > > liberation, were often
> > > > vegetarian and eco-friendly, promoted the use
> of
> > > psychedelic drugs to
> > > > expand one's consciousness, and created
> > > intentional communities or
> > > > communes. They used alternative arts, street
> > > theatre, folk music, and
> > > > psychedelic rock as a part of their lifestyle
> and
> > > as a way of
> > > > expressing their feelings, their protests and
> > > their vision of the
> > > > world and life. Hippies opposed political and
> > > social orthodoxy,
> > > > choosing a gentle and nondoctrinaire ideology
> that
> > > favored peace, love
> > > > and personal freedom,[6][7] perhaps best
> > > epitomized by The Beatles'
> > > > song "All You Need is Love".[8] They perceived
> the
> > > dominant culture as
> > > > a corrupt, monolithic entity that exercised
> undue
> > > power over their
> > > > lives, calling this culture "The
> Establishment",
> > > "Big Brother", or
> > > > "The Man".[9][10][11] Noting that they were
> > > "seekers of meaning and
> > > > value", scholars like Timothy Miller describe
> > > hippies as a new
> > > > religious movement.[12]"
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards.
> > > > Anand Gholap
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      
>
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