Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00035)

>I'm not HOPING that the Executive Committee will infringe on the 
rules and regulations - that's what they seem to be doing. Apparently 
the executive council decides what will make it onto the agenda, and 
the majority of the members there decided against it.... it seems 
weird (to say the least) that it is not going to be discussed at all.<

Yes, exactly so!

Warmest regards,
Anton


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Katinka Hesselink" <mail@...> 
wrote:
>
> Hi Anton,
> 
> I'm not HOPING that the Executive Committee will infringe on the 
rules
> and regulations - that's what they seem to be doing. Apparently the
> executive council decides what will make it onto the agenda, and the
> majority of the members there decided against it. 
> 
> I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I was not looking
> forward to three months of hoping this proposal would not make it. 
On
> the other hand it seems weird (to say the least) that it is not 
going
> to be discussed at all. 
> 
> Katinka
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@> wrote:
> >
> > Again, lack of transparency is at the bottom of it all. Have you
> seen that
> > none of the GC members have said anything about transparency in a 
public
> > forum? Looks like, having used to work in an opaque environment,
> they are
> > scared of transparency. Add to this, their avoidance of Internet
> discussion
> > groups like this says something about the culture in which they 
have
> been
> > operating. Let us wait and see.
> > 
> > mkr
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/1/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@> wrote:
> > >
> > >   Katinka and all,
> > >
> > > Do you really hope that the Executive Committee will infringe 
the TS
> > > Rules and Regulations?
> > >
> > > Now the situation is created in which TS members encourage 
members of
> > > the Executive Committee to continue to act illegally. This is
> > > perverted situation.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless what we think about one of the amendments and 
about the
> > > way in which they were proposed the fact is that they were 
submitted
> > > according to the TS Rules and Regulations. If the proceedings 
will
> > > not be respected, than even greater chaos will be created.
> > >
> > > Should we not rather hope and help that solid arguments are put 
on
> > > the table against the adoption of this amendment. But to 
achieve that
> > > some serious discussion must be encouraged, maybe some 
constitutional
> > > expert opinion acquired, instead of tons of emotional and 
populist
> > > words thrown in the ether - although it is understandable that
> > > members are afraid that they will lose their last illusion that 
they
> > > really have any influence in the present situation at the TS
> > > Headquarters.
> > >
> > > More over, results of your poll show that there is high 
percentage of
> > > support for other amendments in the package which tends to 
improve
> > > the management of the TS.
> > >
> > > But I am afraid that in this overheated situation we are 
missing some
> > > important issues: will the General Council discuss and adopt new
> > > policy for the coming years, will the General Council discuss 
and
> > > meet the demands for greater transparency and communication, 
will the
> > > General Council establish its own constitutional role and that 
of the
> > > Executive Committee, and so on. But maybe this is what all is 
about.
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Katinka
> > > Hesselink" <mail@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One of my informants told me the proposal we have been 
talking about
> > > > recently ( see: http://www.squidoo.com/theosophical-
organisation-
> > > 08 )
> > > > is off the table. That is: it has not been included in the 
agenda
> > > for
> > > > the General Council meeting, even though it has been 
submitted in
> > > time.
> > > >
> > > > This gives us some idea of the way our officers in the 
executive
> > > > council work together.
> > > >
> > > > However, it also means that our right to vote stands and seems
> > > > unlikely to even be officially contested.
> > > >
> > > > I hope my information is correct.
> > > >
> > > > Katinka Hesselink
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
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> >
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