Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00259)

What was Shakespeare's line again?
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 10/11/2008 10:03:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mkr777@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
Need a couple of lawyers like Olcott and Judge. That would keep  things
moving. Have you not seen major movements were led by lawyers and  not
teachers.

mkr

On 10/11/08, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >  wrote:
>
> Ok, the very first thing we have to do is get rid of  those obsolete
> ideas of
> purity, self-denial, charity, etc and  concentrate on finding what really is
>
> going  on.
>
> Chuck the heretic
>
>
> In a message  dated 10/11/2008 4:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> _danielhcaldwell@danielhca_ (mailto:danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com)   
<danielhcaldwell%danielhcald> writes:
>
> "For our  doctrines to practically react on the so called moral code
> or the  ideas of truthfulness, purity, self-denial, charity, etc., we
> have to  preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."
>
> Quoted from a  letter from the Chohan
> __http://www.theosocihttp://www.http://wwwhttp://wwhttp://_ 
(http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._) 
>  (_http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://wwhttp://www._ 
(http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-choh.htm) )
>
>  So exactly what do we preach and popularise?
>
> Are there certain  teachings that constitute this "theosophy"? And if
> so, what are these  teachings?
>
> And where do we find these  teachings?
>
> And how do we learn about them and study them so  that in turn we
> can "preach and popularise" them?
>
> And  who is "we"? The leaders of the TS? Elected officials of the
> TS? Any  member of the TS?
>
> And remember there is more than one TS or  theosophical organization
> or association.
>
> Can  non-members preach and popularise this theosophy?
>
> And in this  same letter, the Chohan tells us:
>
>  ------------  ----  ----  ----  ---- 
>  The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one, must, --
> supported  by such evidence as we are preparing to give become
> ultimately  triumphant as every other truth. Yet it is absolutely
> necessary to  inculcate it gradually enforcing its theories,
> unimpeachable facts for  those who know, with direct inferences
> deducted from and corroborated  by the evidence furnished by modern
> exact science.... Theos-sophia,  Divine Wisdom...is a synonym of
> truth....
>  ------------  ----  ----  ----  ---- 
>
>  This is quite a CLAIM.
>
> "The doctrine we promulgate being the  only true one...."
>
> So what is this DOCTRINE that is "the ONLY  true one" and where can we
> find an exposition of this  teaching?
>
> Is it to be found in THE SECRET DOCTRINE written by  H.P. Blavatsky?
>
> Or can it be found in C.W. Leadbeater's and  Annie Besant's "Man,
> Whence, How, and Whither: A Record of Clairvoyant  Investigation" 
>
> Or in a book by Alice Bailey? or....in a  book by Elizabeth Claire
> Prophet?
>
> If "we" are to  popularise a knowledge of Theosophy, what exactly do
> we  popularise?
>
> Is reincarnation part of this  DOCTRINE?
>
> What if I start popularising the teaching of  reincarnation that
> includes the provision that humans can sometimes be  reborn as
> animals?
>
> Am I faithfully transmitting the  DOCTRINE?
>
> And who is to say that I am faithfully or not  transmitting the
> DOCTRINE?
>
> In other words, who is to  say what the REAL, TRUE "doctrine" is?
>
> The objects of the TS  doesn't tell us what the DOCTRINE is all about,
> so where and how does  one [an inquirer, a newcomer] discover what the
> DOCTRINE is that the  Chohan seems to hold in SUCH high regard?
>
> Daniel
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