Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00299)

Something is rotten in the State of Theosophy

Cass



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From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 13 October, 2008 2:37:31 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World "...we have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."


What was Shakespeare' s line again?

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 10/11/2008 10:03:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
mkr777@gmail. com writes:

Need a couple of lawyers like Olcott and Judge. That would keep things
moving. Have you not seen major movements were led by lawyers and not
teachers.

mkr

On 10/11/08, _Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) 
<_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) > wrote:
>
> Ok, the very first thing we have to do is get rid of those obsolete
> ideas of
> purity, self-denial, charity, etc and concentrate on finding what really is
>
> going on.
>
> Chuck the heretic
>
>
> In a message dated 10/11/2008 4:06:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> _danielhcaldwell@ danielhca_ (mailto:danielhcaldwell@ yahoo.com) 
<danielhcaldwell% danielhcald> writes:
>
> "For our doctrines to practically react on the so called moral code
> or the ideas of truthfulness, purity, self-denial, charity, etc., we
> have to preach and popularise a knowledge of theosophy."
>
> Quoted from a letter from the Chohan
> __http://www.theosoci http://www. http://wwwhttp: //wwhttp: //_ 
(http://www.theosoci http://www. theoshttp: //wwhttp: //www._) 
> (_http://www.theosoci http://www. theoshttp: //wwhttp: //www._ 
(http://www.theosoci ety.org/pasadena /mahatma/ ml-choh.htm) )
>
> So exactly what do we preach and popularise?
>
> Are there certain teachings that constitute this "theosophy"? And if
> so, what are these teachings?
>
> And where do we find these teachings?
>
> And how do we learn about them and study them so that in turn we
> can "preach and popularise" them?
>
> And who is "we"? The leaders of the TS? Elected officials of the
> TS? Any member of the TS?
>
> And remember there is more than one TS or theosophical organization
> or association.
>
> Can non-members preach and popularise this theosophy?
>
> And in this same letter, the Chohan tells us:
>
> ------------ ---- ---- ---- ---- 
> The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one, must, --
> supported by such evidence as we are preparing to give become
> ultimately triumphant as every other truth. Yet it is absolutely
> necessary to inculcate it gradually enforcing its theories,
> unimpeachable facts for those who know, with direct inferences
> deducted from and corroborated by the evidence furnished by modern
> exact science.... Theos-sophia, Divine Wisdom...is a synonym of
> truth....
> ------------ ---- ---- ---- ---- 
>
> This is quite a CLAIM.
>
> "The doctrine we promulgate being the only true one...."
>
> So what is this DOCTRINE that is "the ONLY true one" and where can we
> find an exposition of this teaching?
>
> Is it to be found in THE SECRET DOCTRINE written by H.P. Blavatsky?
>
> Or can it be found in C.W. Leadbeater's and Annie Besant's "Man,
> Whence, How, and Whither: A Record of Clairvoyant Investigation" 
>
> Or in a book by Alice Bailey? or....in a book by Elizabeth Claire
> Prophet?
>
> If "we" are to popularise a knowledge of Theosophy, what exactly do
> we popularise?
>
> Is reincarnation part of this DOCTRINE?
>
> What if I start popularising the teaching of reincarnation that
> includes the provision that humans can sometimes be reborn as
> animals?
>
> Am I faithfully transmitting the DOCTRINE?
>
> And who is to say that I am faithfully or not transmitting the
> DOCTRINE?
>
> In other words, who is to say what the REAL, TRUE "doctrine" is?
>
> The objects of the TS doesn't tell us what the DOCTRINE is all about,
> so where and how does one [an inquirer, a newcomer] discover what the
> DOCTRINE is that the Chohan seems to hold in SUCH high regard?
>
> Daniel
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