Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00371)

Dear Friends,

I would like to inform you that you can follow the latest discussions 
on the TS matters on newly created web page - "Time for Healing and 
Creative Solutions":

http://www.teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Healing_Time.htm

There were two reasons for the creation of a new web page: first, 
because of many entries the "After President Elections 2008" web page 
has already became vague; and second, it became obvious that we have 
already entered in a new phase as certain level of awareness has been 
reached that public and constructive discussion on TS matters is 
necessary.

You can additionally follow the developments on "TS Members Area" web 
page where there are present documents or links to the documents on 
TS maters:

http://www.teozofija.info/tsmembers/tsindex.htm

And you can still visit "President Elections 2008" and "After 
President Elections 2008" web pages on:

http://www.teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/Elections_2008.htm

http://www.teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/After_Elections_2008.htm

Best regards,
Anton



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "t_s_theosophist" 
<THEOSOPHIST@...> wrote:
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> A RESPONSE TO BETTY BLANDS APOLOGIA   ( An Open Letter ) 
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> Betty Bland has posted some of her reasonings on the TSA website. 
You may read this by clicking the following link: 
http://www.theosophical.org/events/news/InternationalVote.php 
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> Dear Mrs. Bland; 
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> Greetings and Fraternal Respect. 
> 
> As Theosophists we are all on the same team. And we all have our 
ideas and opinions about what we think is best for our Society. The 
input of Every member is important in forming a consensus to guide 
our decisions. Acting on the consensus of the membership is how 
Theosophical decisions should be made. 
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> The membership must be given the opportunity for Full and Unedited 
information about the issues to be acted upon. 
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> The Theosophical Society is Not the Roman Church where decisions 
are made by the "ipse Dixit" of one person, or a council of eite 
officers, nor are Theosophical Leaders of any special ecclesiastical 
rank or standing to be issuing "Ipse dixits." 
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> I don't think that many Theosophists have any problems with the 
idea of Change. Change is a part of our Teachings. Any reasonable 
person would agree that at certain times change is necessary to keep 
up with the times and adjust ourselves to new conditions. 
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> So CHANGE is NOT the issue, please don't confuse things and make it 
one. 
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> The issue that outrages many members is the METHOD which you used 
to attempt to impose certain of your ideas about change on the 
memberhip in an urgent and secretive manner without their knowledge 
or consent. 
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> The reasonings you give for your proposals have been rebutted and 
found to be defective by many prominent Theosophists from around the 
world. 
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> [ The reader should refer to the following links to read these 
replies] 
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> Wake-Up Say What You Think
> http://eletzerich.wordpress.com 
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> After the TS President Elections 2008 
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http://www.teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/After_Elections_2008.htm 
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> The International President must remain a "Free Agent" to represent 
the membership from around the world. Your proposal would make the 
International President beholden to the General Council and "Special 
Interests." 
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> The Society as it is currently structured guarantees that Every 
member is completely free to express himself, hold opinions, and act 
( within the bounds of mutual courtesy) as he see fit, with impunity. 
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> Your proposal would impose and promote conformity and seriously 
inhibit freedom of expression. 
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> Your accusations against the Indian Section are NOT valid nor are 
they "Fair Play." 
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> The Indian Section is Not to blame for our current situation. It is 
WE Ourselves that are to blame. IF we were doing the things we should 
be doing..There is NO Power on earth or in any other dimension that 
could stop our growth. Lets' look to ourselves and stop pointing the 
finger. 
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> WHY this spirit of Competition, Ambition and Jealousy? These are 
certainly against our Theosophical Ethos of Altruism, Goodwill and 
Fraternal Affection. 
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> Lets refocus on the main issues which have members outraged and 
lets be perfectly Clear.. 
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> 1. No One is Against Change when it is legitimate and necessary. 
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> 2.   No One Wants To Be Deprived of Their Freedom & Rght To Vote. 
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> 3. There needs to be transparancy and openness...( Their should be
> NOTHING to hide.) 
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> 4. The Members want Leaders who can be TRUSTED. They don't want to 
be tricked and decieved. 
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> 5. Any Theosophical Leader must have a genuine Respect for the 
intelligence of the membership, and strive to attain a consensus of 
opinion before making major decisions. 
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> 6. The Society and Its Important Work MUST always take first 
priority and Not egotistic agendas. 
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> Your reply fails to address These Major Concerns. 
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> I think that any reasonable person
> would have to agree that the METHOD you used to attempt to impose 
your proposals on the membership in such an urgent and secretive 
manner without a consensus, discussion, or knowledge by the 
membersihp 
> IS JUSTIFIABLE CAUSE FOR SUSPICION. 
> 
> Fraternally; 
> 
> William Delahunt
> Orlando Florida.
> Member of TSA Since 1969
> Theosophist@...
> http://www.tso-orlando.org 
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> Let us utilize this time to stay informed and discuss this in our 
Lodges and T.S. Groups 
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> Spread the news of this to other Theosophists you know of.. It is 
Most important that All Theosophists be aware of this AND Express 
their opinion. 
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> You may even want to send a note or many notes to the International 
Secretary. 
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> IF you do....be sure to ask for a "Confirmation" that your note was 
recieved, so you have a proof of receipt. 
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> This is an easy process and just involves a click of the "Reply" 
button. 
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> You Can Let The International Secretary Know How You Feel By 
Sending An E-Mail. 
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> When You Do, Request That he
> Acknowledge Receipt of Your Note 
> By Clicking The Reply Button And On The Return "Subject Line" 
Simply Write..."Received" 
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> 
> International Secretary
> theossoc@... 
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> IT IS MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN A LIVELY DISCUSSION ABOUT 
THIS CRITICAL ISSUE, So that Our Concerns are Not Overlooked or 
Forgotten by the time to next General Council Meeting Occurs in 
2009/2010. 
> 
> We will attempt to keep you informed of further developments on 
this critical issue. 
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> STAY INFORMED ABOUT THIS CRITICAL ISSUE: 
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> More Information: 
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> Wake-Up Say What You Think
> http://eletzerich.wordpress.com 
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> After the TS President Elections 2008 
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http://www.teozofija.info/Teozofsko_gibanje/After_Elections_2008.htm 
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> TEXT OF PROPOSED CHANGES 
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> (Click link) 
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/Theosophical-soc-reg-08.html 
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> SPECIAL BLOG & POLL OF REPONSES 
> CLICK HERE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AND READ WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID. 
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> (click link) 
> http://www.squidoo.com/theosophical-organisation-08 
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> PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS NOTE TO OTHER THEOSOPHISTS YOU KNOW OF. AND 
SHARE WITH YOUR LODGES & GROUPS. 
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