Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00149)

Some folks get a bit, well, to wrapped up in themselves.  I was once  called 
a danger to people's souls by a member of the ES.
 
The trick is to let it bounce off.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2009 10:06:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:

Yow  Chuck,

which TS...I remember the leader of the TS Pasadena judging me I  was sending 
him abusive emails and that I had too much fantasy as well that he  had seen 
on a little spot somewhere in the layers of my consciousness that  there was 
only a little bit of a wish to do good. For the rest according his  words I was 
a veiled threat to the world...He never apologized for such a  prejudice but 
simply said: "words are dodgy things". Taking that last bit I  bet he was 
talking right out of his wrong body-openings...I have a cure for  him, but can't 
force him to swallow my marshmellows, original  recepy.

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>  wrote:
From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re:  Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
To:  theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 4:42  PM











I think he would rather it was put on video and  broadcast on Youtube as  
that 

is the new public square.   That is always the secret wish of  those who 

believe that X is  TRUE and all other views are false, evil and  conducive to 
bad  

living, to say nothing of being a Jesuit plot.  There is a   reason why we in 
the 

TS have no holy writ, no creedal statements, no  Oath of  Allegiance to 

Blavatsky and the Masters.  It is so  that each member can  find that truth 
inside  

himself.



The idea that anyone should be deprived of  access to any material, for any  

reason, is anathema to us, for  that very reason.  It is not our place to  

control thought,  to tell people what is right thinking or worse, right  
belief.  We  

have more than enough people outside the TS willing to do that   for us.



Chuck the Heretic





In a message  dated 1/8/2009 1:01:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,  

prmoliveira@  yahoo.com writes:



--- In _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_  (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) , 
 

"Morten Nymann Olesen"  <global-

theosophy@.. t>  wrote:



> So  therefore I would keep recommending: Stop selling books  by C. 

W.  Leadbeater and his LLC Church.



Why not burn them in  public  places, with sufficient notice given to 

those interested  to attend? As a  matter of fact, why stop at 

Leadbeater's books?  Why not include Besant's,  Arundale's, 

Jinarajadasa'  Jinarajadasa' <WBR>s, Sri Ram's, Taimni's and perhap



In  view of the statemts included in it, such as the ones below,   

should not "The Secret Doctrine" be also considered as a book  whose  

sale may not be allowed to go on?



"The  Aryan views of the symbolism  were those of the whole Pagan  

world; the Semite interpretations emanated  from, and were  pre-

eminently those of a small tribe, thus marking its  national  features 

and the idiosyncratic defects that characterize many of   the Jews to 

this day â gross realism, selfishness, and sensuality.  They  had made 

a bargain, through their father Jacob, with their  tribal deity,  self-

exalted above all others, and a covenant that  his "seed shall be as  

the dust of the earth"; and that deity  could have no better image  

henceforth than that of the symbol of  generation, and, as  

representation, a number and numbers." (SD,  vol. II, p. 470)



"But  Phallic worship has developed only  with the gradual loss of the 

keys to  the inner meaning of  religious symbols; and there was a day 

when the  Israelites had  beliefs as pure as the Aryans have. But now 

Judaism, built   solely on Phallic worship, has become one of the 

latest creeds in  Asia,  and theologically a religion of hate and 

malice toward  everyone and  everything outside themselves. Philo 

JudÃus shows  what was the genuine  Hebrew faith. The sacred Writings, 

he says,  prescribe what we ought to do  . . . commanding us to hate 

the  heathen and their laws and institutions.  They did hate Baal or  

Bacchus worship publicly, but left its worst  features to be  followed 

secretly; and it is with the Talmudic Jews that  the  grand symbols of 

nature were the most profaned. With them, as  now  shown by the 

discovery of the key to the correct Bible  reading â Geometry,  the 

fifth divine Science ("fifth" â because  it is the fifth key in the  

series of the Seven Keys to the  Universal esoteric language and  

symbology) was desecrated, and  by them applied to conceal the most  

terrestrial and grossly  sexual mysteries, wherein both Deity and  

religion were  degraded." (SD, vol. II, p. 471)



On the other hand,  an  easier solution would be to allow people the 

freedom to choose  what  they want to read and study. Alas, this has 

always been the  most difficult  path to follow, particularly for those 

bred and  born with the nourishment  of the received  truth.



Pedro



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