Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00531)

that was the old way - Obama said that governments are for the people and to be in government means to be in service - as a privilege - to the people - that his government will be transparent and honest - and that there will be no wage increase for politicians !!
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No doubt, Bush would have spoken to Israel - come up with a plan and then phoned the other Middle Eastern leaders - 
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Cass

--- On Thu, 22/1/09, christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Obama's first actions as President
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 11:22 AM






Only if he hit with his fist on the table!

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
>
> I agree with you Christina but maybe you and I are not the 
missionary types!!!ÃÂ I was so pleased when I heard that the first 
thing Obama did was to phone the leaders of Israel and four other 
Middle Eastern Countries including Iran - to suspend all current 
trials at Guantanemo - and in his speech say that reconciliation 
cannot come about when one hand has a closed fist.
> ÃÂ
> Cass
> 
> --- On Thu, 22/1/09, christinaleestemake r 
<christinaleestemak er@...> wrote:
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> From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@...>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Can we see Obama as Hitler in Mass 
Psychosis.
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Received: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 4:02 AM
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> As Cass wrote before we cannot stay sitting in caves.
> On that I can also say; we cannot stay sitting on a rose cloud 
above 
> earth; for then we have to come back on earth ever and ever till we 
> have learned how to manage earth.
> And I will not say Obama is the one who brings wonders, he is not 
> Messias, what a lot of people think now.
> Also it is good to see things in other way as they were presenting.
> But we will see what happens!
> Personally I can agree with the saying...:Yes, WE CAN !!!!
> 
> And younger people know, I can see on my son, he say things, we 
> needed to learn from HPB and others.
> They don't need theosophy, they life from inside outside.And that 
is 
> it.
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> > 
> > Thanks for clearing that up. It is a good idea, when you post to 
> the 
> > list, to differentiate between things you write that are original 
> to 
> > you, and things that come from another source. It is pretty 
> shocking 
> > to read something so dark that seems as if it comes from a member 
> of 
> > the list. 
> > 
> > Indeed it is a good thing to be aware of what is happening, what 
is 
> > being said. But it is also good to point out how this fits into 
> > theosophy. Think of the many, possibly hundreds or more, people 
who 
> > read this list and never post. Young people, students, people who 
> are 
> > touching theosophy for the first time, most of whom don't feel 
they 
> > know enough or are comfortable enough discussing these issues to 
> post 
> > in public. "Don't we owe it to them to be clear about what we are 
> > saying and to give them a fair representation of what theosophy 
is 
> > all about?
> > 
> > Adelasie
> > 
> > On 21 Jan 2009 at 11:17, christinaleestemake r wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > In the first place that sory is not my meaning but from 
Davidicke.
> > > In the other place I want to see what other think of that and 
in 
> the
> > > third place I think that NLP use is the point of black magic, 
for
> > > this sixth principle HPB just warned us.
> > > 
> > > We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> > > 
> > > That are your words and Idon't agree with that.
> > > 
> > > If you see the reaction of Martin after the posting of this, 
you 
> see
> > > what he have to see over NLP and I do totally agree with him.
> > > If used in a personal way it is bad and selfish , there are 
other
> > > ways in which that is not.
> > > Christina
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Christina,
> > > >
> > > > If I understand that your post is serious and that you really 
> wish
> > > > the list to consider your statements, I must say that your 
post 
> is
> > > > evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all great
> > > > teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a choice: 
we 
> can
> > > > choose to reject progress along the path to enlightennent, to 
> turn
> > > > away from the Light and plunge ourselves again into future 
eons 
> of
> > > > man's inhumanity to man, and to all nature, or we can embrace 
> the
> > > > change that is coming and proceed with love and faith, hope 
and
> > > > courage. Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for
> > > himself,
> > > > and, while you have the right to your opinion, it is 
important 
> that
> > > > all other students realize that intellectual manipulation of
> > > paranoia
> > > > and fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not
> > > > necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the 
old
> > > > saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar 
> Light."
> > > >
> > > > Theosophhy teaches the that all life is one. There is no them 
> and
> > > us,
> > > > no perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the
> > > conditions
> > > > in which we live and for the leaders we have. We are not 
> mindless
> > > > automata, being led by some diabolical mastermind. Not unless 
we
> > > > choose to be. This theory you propound is a good example of 
> exactly
> > > > the kind of thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is
> > > > everywhere. Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time 
to
> > > > choose a new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it 
> did,
> > > > why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring 
> the
> > > > realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with 
> greed
> > > and
> > > > selfishness, fear and dispair.
> > > >
> > > > Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your own 
> life.
> > > > Look within your own heart if you want to know the truth. It 
is
> > > > always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and step boldly 
> forward
> > > > into the Light that awaits us all, if we will only embrace it.
> > > >
> > > > Adelaise
> > > >
> > > > On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41, christinaleestemake r wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What does all this have to do with theosophy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adelasie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 19 Jan 2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemake r wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques 
and
> > > Neuro-
> > > > > > > Linguistic-Programm ing, or NLP, and they are carefully
> > > > > constructed to
> > > > > > > implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the 
> viewer.
> > > Click
> > > > > > > here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An
> > > > > Examination of
> > > > > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His 
Speeches.
> > > > >
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