Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00557)

Don't forget future is based on now.
And I think we all have to worry about things happened behind us, at 
least to clear up.
And  Adalasie you pretends that I always post such titles.
Otherway are we of this world or another?
As I read you, you want stay hanging in old fashioned 1000 times 
repeated orders we already know.And every theosophist or comming ones 
read prospects,books and so on.

As HPB said: "we need to think for ourselves" and not for others or 
new ones ; realy they can think for themselves, but you not as I see.

Christina





--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm, 
> well, Chuck, I worry about it! 
> 
> I think, Cass, that a bit of information is useful. 
> We don't usually post the writings of others without attribution. 
> It's a copyright issue as much as anything. But let's also think 
> about who is reading and what they might be thinking. If they think 
> that someone who regularly posts, such as Christina, is personally 
> promoting the information that appeared under her name, what can 
they 
> surmise? That theosophy is not what it seems, at the very least? 
> Don't we have a responsibility to represent the teaching accurately?
> 
> Adelasie
> 
> On 21 Jan 2009 at 15:42, Cass Silva wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Adelasie
> > How else will a student learn discrimination? - and to think for 
> > themselves?
> > Cass
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 22/1/09, Drpsionic@... <Drpsionic@...> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Drpsionic@... <Drpsionic@...>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Can we see Obama as Hitler in Mass 
Psychosis.
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 10:04 AM
> > 
> > Hell, we never worried about it before! No point in starting now.
> > 
> > Chuck the Heretic
> > 
> > In a message dated 1/21/2009 9:53:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > adelasie@sbcglobal. net writes:
> > 
> > Christina,
> > 
> > Thanks for clearing that up. It is a good idea, when you post to 
the
> > list, to differentiate between things you write that are original 
to
> > you, and things that come from another source. It is pretty 
shocking
> > to read something so dark that seems as if it comes from a member 
of
> > the list.
> > 
> > Indeed it is a good thing to be aware of what is happening, what 
is
> > being said. But it is also good to point out how this fits into
> > theosophy. Think of the many, possibly hundreds or more, people 
who
> > read this list and never post. Young people, students, people who 
are
> > touching theosophy for the first time, most of whom don't feel 
they
> > know enough or are comfortable enough discussing these issues to 
post
> > in public. "Don't we owe it to them to be clear about what we are
> > saying and to give them a fair representation of what theosophy is
> > all about?
> > 
> > Adelasie
> > 
> > On 21 Jan 2009 at 11:17, christinaleestemake On 21 Ja
> > 
> > >
> > > In the first place that sory is not my meaning but from 
Davidicke.
> > > In the other place I want to see what other think of that and 
in the
> > > third place I think that NLP use is the point of black magic, 
for
> > > this sixth principle HPB just warned us.
> > >
> > > We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> > >
> > > That are your words and Idon't agree with that.
> > >
> > > If you see the reaction of Martin after the posting of this, 
you see
> > > what he have to see over NLP and I do totally agree with him.
> > > If used in a personal way it is bad and selfish , there are 
other
> > > ways in which that is not.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-
talk@yahoogro 
> > ups.com) ,
> > "adelasie" <adelasie@ a> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Christina,
> > > >
> > > > If I understand that your post is serious and that you really 
wish
> > > > the list to consider your statements, I must say that your 
post is
> > > > evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all great
> > > > teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a choice: 
we can
> > > > choose to reject progress along the path to enlightennent, to 
turn
> > > > away from the Light and plunge ourselves again into future 
eons of
> > > > man's inhumanity to man, and to all nature, or we can embrace 
the
> > > > change that is coming and proceed with love and faith, hope 
and
> > > > courage. Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for
> > > himself,
> > > > and, while you have the right to your opinion, it is 
important 
> > that
> > > > all other students realize that intellectual manipulation of
> > > paranoia
> > > > and fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not
> > > > necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the 
old
> > > > saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar 
Light."
> > > >
> > > > Theosophhy teaches the that all life is one. There is no them 
and
> > > us,
> > > > no perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the
> > > conditions
> > > > in which we live and for the leaders we have. We are not 
mindless
> > > > automata, being led by some diabolical mastermind. Not unless 
we
> > > > choose to be. This theory you propound is a good example of 
> > exactly
> > > > the kind of thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is
> > > > everywhere. Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time 
to
> > > > choose a new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it 
did,
> > > > why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring 
the
> > > > realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with 
greed
> > > and
> > > > selfishness, fear and dispair.
> > > >
> > > > Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your own 
life.
> > > > Look within your own heart if you want to know the truth. It 
is
> > > > always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and step boldly 
> > forward
> > > > into the Light that awaits us all, if we will only embrace it.
> > > >
> > > > Adelaise
> > > >
> > > > On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41, christinaleestemake On 20 J
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
> > > > > Christina
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-
> > talk@yahoogro ups.com)
> > , "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Christina,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What does all this have to do with theosophy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adelasie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 19 Jan 2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemake On 19 J
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Obama's speeches are a mass of mind-control techniques 
and
> > > Neuro-
> > > > > > > Linguistic-Programm Linguistic-Programm <WBR>ing, o
> > > > > constructed to
> > > > > > > implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the 
viewer.
> > > Click
> > > > > > > here for a description of his psycho-babble, headed An
> > > > > Examination of
> > > > > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His 
Speeches.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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