Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00215)

I never had heard so much nonsense.But oke it is yours.
Christina





--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Christina
> 
> You cannot know yourself without learning about occultism.
> That must be logical.
> 
> 
> M. Sufilight
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: christinaleestemaker 
>   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you
> 
> 
>   You asked about knowing theyself and not on occultism.
>   Since when is knowing theyself occultism, for you maybe, but not 
for 
>   me.
>   Christina
> 
>   --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
>   theosophy@> wrote:
>   >
>   > 
>   > So I take it, that you disagre with H. P. Blavatsky, the 
Masters 
>   and a whole range of Seers from India, Tibet and other countries?
>   > 
>   > H. P. Blavatsky is clearly stating, that Occultism is dangerous 
to 
>   learn about without a guide.
>   > Walking the path without learning about occultism is impossible.
>   > So if you want to call me and others "dullheads," where does it 
>   leave you, when not listening to those who have experienced the 
truth 
>   about it?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > M. Sufilight
>   > 
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: christinaleestemaker 
>   > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:17 PM
>   > Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Everyone have its own way and don't need a guide for knowing 
him 
>   or 
>   > herself, only the dullheads need!!!
>   > Christina
>   > 
>   > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" 
<global-
>   > theosophy@> wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Did you read my previous e-mail?
>   > > How can one learn to know one self without being guided and 
>   without 
>   > comparative studying?
>   > > Is it safe to promote a psychological revolution inwardly 
>   without a 
>   > guide?
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 1.
>   > > J. Krishnamurti said:
>   > > "I know that which I am; I know my purpose in life because I 
am 
>   > Life itself without name, without limitation. And because I am 
>   Life I 
>   > would urge you to worship that Life, not in this form that is 
>   > Krishnamurti but the Life which dwells in each one of you. Put 
>   aside 
>   > all the paraphernalia of beliefs, religions and ceremonies, and 
>   you 
>   > will find the Truth."
>   > > (The seventh International Camp of the Order of the Star
>   > > held at Ommen, Holland, August 6th, 1928) 
>   > > 
>   > > http://jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1928-let-understanding-be-
the-
>   law/
>   > jiddu-krishnamurti-let-understanding-be-the-law-07.php
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 2.AN APPRECIATION OF C. W. LEADBEATER By Geoffrey Hodson
>   > > 
>   > > "As I have elsewhere written, I attended several of the Star 
>   Camps 
>   > in Holland and was present when there was evidence of 
remarkable, 
>   if 
>   > brief, supernormal manifestations. On more than one occasion 
some 
>   two 
>   > thousand people from many parts of the world were gathered at 
>   Ommen 
>   > to hear Krishnamurti. Each evening, all were seated in 
concentric 
>   > circles round a large camp fire. Krishnamurti would arrive, 
take 
>   his 
>   > place for a time, and then rise and apply a torch to the camp 
>   fire. 
>   > As the flames arose against the evening sky he would chant a 
>   mantram 
>   > to the god Agni, and return to his seat. Thereafter he would 
>   begin to 
>   > speak, and on more than one occasion a noticeable change took 
>   place 
>   > in him. His voice altered and his hitherto rather iconoclastic 
>   > utterances gave way to a wonderful tenderness of expression and 
>   > thought which induced in those present an elevation of 
>   consciousness. 
>   > The Talks were followed by prolonged meditative silences. Many 
of 
>   > those present, myself among them, bore testimony to the sense 
of 
>   > divine peace which had descended, to a realization of the 
>   Presence of 
>   > the Lord, and to an assurance that the prophecy had begun to be 
>   > fulfilled. These phenomena occurred during some few successive 
>   years, 
>   > the events being so marked that Krishnamurti himself there 
after 
>   > changed the Objects of the Order of the Star in the East from, 
in 
>   > effect, "To prepare for the coming of the Lord" to "To serve 
the 
>   > World Teacher now that He is in our midst." I, myself, more 
than 
>   once 
>   > heard Krishnamurti affirm that the great Teacher was now here 
and 
>   > that the "Coming" had actually occurred. Even now when he is 
>   > speaking, with others I discern a spiritual influence emanating 
>   from 
>   > him, as if a great Being were still using him as a 
vehicle.This, 
>   > however, does not constitute a complete fulfillment of the 
>   original 
>   > prophecy."
>   > > www.theosophical.org/resources/articles/AppreciationofCWL.pdf 
>   > (written around 1965)
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > A Nobody or Guru or Messiah or partly a Messiah? Unimportant 
to 
>   J. 
>   > Krishnamurti?
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > M. Sufilight
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > > From: christinaleestemaker 
>   > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>   > > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:50 PM
>   > > Subject: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you
>   > > 
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>   > > http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=krishnamurti+on+whoam
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