Re: Theos-World Does Anand, Govert and Daniel believe in Koot Hoomi?
Mar 01, 2009 10:10 AM
by Govert Schuller
Daniel: "Does Anand, Govert and Daniel believe in Koot Hoomi?"
Govert: No, I don't, but his existence is to be treated as a very probable hypothesis as many people have witnessed to having met him in the flesh and/or meta-empirically and my theosophical world view has ample space for Mahatmas and the like for they are integral parts of that philosophy. Definitive proof has eluded me so far as I have not had any such experiences, though it is possible I saw him speak in Montana through Elizabeth Clare Prophet and feel his presence if I'm in a more Bhakti mode, though it is possible, as I might soon hear from my fellows here, that I'm deluded. 8^)
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Subject: Theos-World Does Anand, Govert and Daniel believe in Koot Hoomi?
Does Anand, Govert and Daniel believe in Koot Hoomi?
In September of last year, I wrote to Anand on
Theos-Talk starting my posting with the following:
I am going to try to see where the two of us agree and disagree.
I assume that both of us believe in the existence of the Master Koot
Hoomi. Am I right?
But it would appear that our beliefs differ significantly in many
other aspects concerning Theosophy.
Therefore this posting is Part 1 of a series of postings in which I
am going to try to ascertain where the two of us agree and disagree
and more importantly I will try to determine what our thinking
and reasoning on these issues are.
The rest of that posting to Anand can be found at:
As far as I know, Anand never responded to that posting
at least not in any detail. Therefore I did not
pursue this line of thinking any further as I had originally hoped
So now that Govert has entered the "arena" so to speak,
I ask Anand once more and Govert the following:
Do the two of you believe in the existence of the Master Koot Hoomi?
Do the three of us believe in Koot Hoomi?
Richard Hodgson (basing his "findings" on Emma Coulomb's testimony
and his own "research") stated his conclusions as follows:
"....Koot Hoomi is a FICTITIOUS personage....[and the]
supposed "astral forms" of the Mahatmas were confederates of Madame
Blavatsky in disguise --- generally the Coulombs....[The] alleged
[occult] phenomena --- some of them in connection with the so-called
Shrine at Adyar --- were ingenious trickeries, carried out by Madame
Blavatsky, with the assistance chiefly of the Coulombs....I must
express my unqualified opinion that NO GENUINE psychical phenomena
WHATEVER will be found among the pseudo-mysteries of the Russian lady
alias Koot Hoomi Lal Sing alias Mahatma Morya alias Madame Blavatsky."
Do the two of you agree with Hodgson that Koot Hoomi is a fictitious,
imaginary, non-existent person simply made up by H.P. Blavatsky as
the "evidence" presented by both Emma Coulomb and Richard Hodgson
would lead one to conclude???
And if you do not agree with Hodgson's conclusion and believe that
Koot Hoomi is a real person, then what SPECIFIC evidence and
reasoning convinces you of Koot Hoomi's existence?
I am trying to see if at least on this one point, the three of us can
agree on something and I would like to sincerely know your views and
as I said what convinces you that you conclusion is correct.
Later I will try to further the discussion by following up on some of
the material about Mr. Sinnett's belief in Master KH as given in the
above posting that I wrote to Anand back in September.
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