Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00457)

Dear Daniel,

Thanks again for the links. 

There are a few ways to reconcile HPB and the WT project:

1) If you start with HPB as the true standard, than you can deduce from her writings that AB, CWL and K were all mistaken and either perpetrating a fraud, or subject to self-deception, or deception by meta-emperical entities like dugpas, or possibly even by the Masters themselves (vide Nigel's hypothesis).

2) If you start with the idea that most transcendental events connected to the WT project were genuine, than you can conclude that not all of HPB's ideas are necesarrily helpful to understand what really happened. Some do, some don't. And she might be mistaken. You just have to weigh her statements about Maitreya with the statements made by CWL, K, Hodson, Scott and Anrias, all of whom were witnessing one way or the other of Maitreya's involvement in the WT project.

3) HPB's ideas are right and the WT project was genuine at the same time. There was just some unfortunate mix-up in names and concepts. Therefore no reason to become an anti-Krishnamurti, fundamentalist Blavatskyite nor an anti-Theosophical fundamentalist Krishnamurtiite. 

As I made clear before, you start with 1) and I start with 2) and that has to do with the particular history of our spiritual quest and the decisive formative spiritual events while on our way. 

So my repost to you would be:

Regardless of what HPB wrote and taught, it looks to me that something very profound, mysterious and transformational happened with the WT project and some august high spiritual intelligences were involved and their names might well have been Koot Hoomi, Maitreya, Buddha and Sanat Kumara. 

In the end I think we'll just have to agree to disagree and hopefully agreeably so. 

Govert



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: danielhcaldwell 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:03 AM
  Subject: Theos-World What did HPB teach about Maitreya & the Torch-Bearer??





  Regardless of what various Theosophical writers after HPB have written
  about the coming Maitreya and the Torch-Bearer of Truth of the 20th century, what did H.P. Blavatsky originally write and teach about each of these subjects?

  I give again links to postings that collate the relevant HPB material. These pages give what HPB taught regardless of what other individuals later WANTED to make of the teachings.

  H.P. Blavatsky on the true Maitreya
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50664

  Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50828

  Also relevant to these 2 topics is what HPB said elsewhere about
  the Christ and the Messiah craze:

  ". . . true Theosophists will never accept ...a Christ made Flesh... 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50666

  H.P. Blavatsky on Christ -- the true esoteric SAVIOR 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50662

  'Lo here! and lo there!': The Messiah Craze 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50663

  And finally the following relevant postings should be kept in mind as one goes over the above material:

  Dr. Santucci on Besant & Leadbeater's teachings..... 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50748

  Was Besant /Leadbeater disseminating "a misleading Mayavic ideation? 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50752

  Annie Besant on Her Messiah: Was this Part of the Messiah Craze?
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/50543

  Annie Besant Under DELUDING Influences
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/49392

  Did Besant & Leadbeater follow the advice in the 1900 KH Letter?
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/41250

  I'm planning to put all of this material on our website so it can be easily found by students and researchers.

  Daniel
  http://hpb.cc



  

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