Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
Jun 30, 2009 08:11 PM
by Cass Silva
Nah, KH said 'give em enough rope'!!!!! ,lol
Cass
>
>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, 30 June, 2009 2:30:17 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
>
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>
>Does that mean we can hang them all from the nearest yardarm?
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 6/29/2009 8:30:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
>
>Hey Yarda is an anagram and petname of Koot Hoomi for Adyar - lol
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) "
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com)
>>Sent: Monday, 29 June, 2009 3:09:52 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
>>
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>>If they do it might be with flamethrowers.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 6/28/2009 8:32:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>yahoo.
>>
>>Perhaps Adyar is getting ready to announce that the Masters have returned
>>to Adyar????
>>
>>lol
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: robertapimenta26 <_robertapimenta26@ robertapi_
>>(mailto:robertapim (mailto:robertap im<>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Monday, 29 June, 2009 7:28:09 AM
>>>Subject: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>Dear Mr. Keith Fisher,
>>>
>>>Your very bold statements have made a deep impression on me, and the
>rest
>>of the (theosophical) world.
>>>
>>>I respect you, hold no grievances against you and although we've never
>>met, I am certain that you are a good and honest man.
>>>
>>>Am very intrigued about your remark concerning 'the spiritual forces
>>taking control of the situation' though. Next to that, you really puzzle
>me
>>with this 'head on the block', phrase, mine, probably be next.
>>>
>>>Is it possible that your head was there first of all, I mean before Mrs.
>>Preethi's or mine, because you really seem to have lost yours...
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, if that is not enough, you want me to return to Spain to
>>'fight bulls'. *(???)
>>>
>>>Dear Mr. Keith Fisher, I haven't got a clue what you are talking
>>about...(?? about...(
>>>
>>>Roberta
>>>
>>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "keith_fisher@ ..." <exsecy@...>
>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Roberta
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice to think that you wasn't misinformed, Adyar needs
>>>> to be purged of all those who are prejudice or hold a grudge against
>>>> the duly elected President before regeneration can start. However,
>>>> spiritual forces seem to be taking control of the situation now.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, Preethi has placed her own head on the block and you will
>>>> probably be next, you could go back to Spain and fight a few bulls!
>>>>
>>>> I wish you well
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "robertapimenta26"
>><robertapimenta26@ > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Mr. Fisher,
>>>> >
>>>> > Good to hear from you. Time will tell, Mr. Fisher, only time will
>>tell if I was totally misinformed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Roberta
>>>> >
>>>> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "keith_fisher@ " <exsecy@> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Dear Roberta
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Although you are claiming to be a non-member, you seem
>>>> > > to have knowledge not only of the Adyar TS and estate, but
>>>> > > also the ES and Co-M as well. However, I think you have
>>>> > > been totally misinformed on both of the points you have raised,
>>>> > > in the six months I was at Adyar, until the end of February this
>>>> > > year, I witnessed an enormous amount of maintenance being
>>>> > > carried out on the estate.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Large buildings like the Blavatsky Bungalow and the
>>>> > > Administration Building had been completely renovated with
>>>> > > new roofing and toilet facilities. Many of the other smaller
>>>> > > buildings were in the process of renovation or repairs and the
>>>> > > General Manager was run off his feet trying to keep up with
>>>> > > the work of overseeing the contractors.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > There was also major works being undertaken by the Garden
>>>> > > Department, mechanization had started to be introduced and
>>>> > > vast areas of scrub had been cleared, the coconut palms had
>>>> > > been mulched with crushed coconut husks and drip watering
>>>> > > systems were being installed. Although this is an extensive
>>>> > > estate the Garden Department seemed to be gradually making
>>>> > > improvements throughout the compound, and the whole of the
>>>> > > estate was visibly greatly improved.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On your second point, although I worked closely with the
>>>> > > President for six months I was never aware of any secret
>>>> > > attempt to `do away with' any member who was prejudice
>>>> > > against her. In fact it was quite the opposite, out of the three
>>>> > > Adyar workers who interfered with the Presidential election
>>>> > > by having the audacity to write a letter to the General Council
>>>> > > members advising them that the President was not fit and
>>>> > > should not be nominated, only one of them was asked to leave.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Another of the workers left of her own volition eight months
>>>> > > later, and one of them is still allowed to be a resident on the
>>>> > > Adyar estate, enjoying spacious, private accommodation at a
>>>> > > near peppercorn rental, in a tranquil setting amid beautiful trees
>>>> > > and tropical greenery, backing onto the Adyar river.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I would think this is a good indication of the President's grace,
>>>> > > and her compassion for those who have plotted against her.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Keith
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "robertapimenta26"
>><robertapimenta26@ > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Dear Mr. Rozman,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > The silence from the International President (Adyar) is
>>significant, but not surprising. Some individuals are doing the talking
>for her,
>>like Mr. Pedro Oliveira, who according to some messages I received is
>>travelling through Europe at the moment. There are alarming stories going
>round and
>>they point to two main issues: 1) the adminstration of the Adyar estate
>>itself, the contribution of Mrs. Preethi was an example and 2) a secret
>>attempt by the International President to do away with all those who
>believe
>>that she cannot fulfil her office as International President any longer.
>Mind
>>you, these are, for as far as I am concerned only rumours, don't want to
>>speculate, but does any of you contributors know more about this?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Roberta
>>>> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Anton Rozman"
>><anton_rozman@ > wrote:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Cass,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > We are all missing the "word of the President", addressing
>this
>>critical situation, proposing solutions, indicating the way out. Is not
>>this silence possibly crying out that maybe she is not in a position to
>speak
>>on her own any more?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Best regards,
>>>> > > > > Anton
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ >
>>wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > I don't hear any cries of helplessness coming from Ms
>Burnier
>>unless of course she is hoping that the bad publicity will go away?
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Cass
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ >
>>>> > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>> > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, 21 June, 2009 2:45:39 PM
>>>> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Dear Cass,
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of
>
>>deep helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth
>>of facts which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than
>>expose it. But in this situation we are all patients and we can cure
>ourselves
>>only with mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one
>is
>>without guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We
>are
>>all in the same boat.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Best regards,
>>>> > > > > > >Anton
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva
><silva_cass@
>>...> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any
>>healing can take place!
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> Cass
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ ...>
>>>> > > > > > >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>> > > > > > >> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35 PM
>>>> > > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >Hi MKR,
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >If i could put it more appropriately cleansing is
>needed
>>overall, but instead of harping on about the "secret disenfranchising
>>attempt made by some of the General Secretaries -- which i understand was
>just a
>>suggestion rather than a finalized move -- one needs to look at the
>>reasons why this suggestion was even thought about". In treating a
>disease, one
>>can either look at the symptoms or at the root cause.
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole
>>problem you will, willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective
>leadership of
>>the current international president (which she has been over the past 29
>>years), Mrs Radha Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that the
>>attempt from Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the
>symptoms
>>and focus attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of this
>>whole division in the TS.
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >One can then look at some of these things deeply and
>>question them or ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an
>>organization that has altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of
>this
>>organization initiate gossip and why has she never thought about the
>>deep-seated effects this kind of behaviour will generate among members;
>(c) One would
>>expect the head of a spiritual organization to have insight into human
>>nature. Why has this aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even
>though
>>opportunities for this insight and resultant understanding were present
>>throughout her career as president of the TS, including during the
>elections
>>and its aftermath? and (d) since we are all supposed to be intelligent,
>>thinking, rational individuals, why, even when the corruption rampant in
>Adyar
>>is brought to everyone's attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule
>>our hearts and minds?
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >Preethi
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>>>> > > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>>> > > > > > >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>> > > > > > >> >Date: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO.
>>Have we forgotten last
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >year's failed ultra secret attempt to disenfranchise all
>>of us and handdful
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >of GC members seize power to "appoint" the president,
>>thus make the
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >president a puppet in their hands?
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >MKR
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >Visit www.theosophy. net
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >On 6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
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>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Hi all,
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Am glad we are looking into cleansing here. Cleansing
>>is what the TS and
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> especially its heart, Adyar, requires today...and it
>>is we who need to do
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical
>>Society. Would you like to
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> join me?
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Preethi
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo.
>>com<silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass%
>>40yahoo.com> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%
>>40yahoogroups. com>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> Only that the smoke from sage cleanses negative
>>spirits?
>>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> Cass
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> >To: theos-talk <theos-talk@ yahoogro ups.com>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >Sent: Monday, 15 June, 2009 1:17:44 AM
>>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> >With all the bad entities operating around us and
>>perhaps against us as
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >well, either by themselves, or through some
>>unsuspecting deluded victims,
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >HSO mentioned that before he and HPB took residence
>>anywhere, it was
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >approved by a Brother or Brothers and it was cleansed
>>of undesirable
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >influences etc. before they moved in. When the
>>cleansing was done, the
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> place
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >was vacated of everyone. It has been reported that
>>similar cleansing was
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >done by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
>>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>>> > > > > > >> >
>>>> > > > > > >> >> >.
>>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> >Has anyone read more about the issue of cleansing?
>>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>>> > > > > > >> >> >More on theosophy at www.theosophy. net
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