Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
Jul 10, 2009 11:37 PM
by Drpsionic
Not in the slightest.
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 7/10/2009 10:21:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
Aren't you at least curious????
Cass
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>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) "
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
>Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:25:02 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>No, the more important question is why would anyone even care. We do not
>work at that level. We have no need of concerning ourselves with it. Such
>things will occur on their own, naturally.
>
>It is a waste of time to even bother with such matters.
>
>Chuck the heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/9/2009 7:35:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
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>Interesting question arises from this - how do the monads present
>themselves awakening into a new manvantara?
>
>Cass
>
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>>From: Martin <_Mvandertak@ yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@_Mvandertak@
yah>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 6:10:23 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>>True, according KH, Mars is awaking from pralaya...
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>>--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ silva_cass> wrote:
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>>From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ silva_cass>
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:01 AM
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>>I thought earthlings preceded martians? Although I am very hazy on
>this subject - read years ago that in the next manvantara humans evolve
to
>Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in the middle
>between mars and venus?
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>>Cass
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>>>
>>>From: "Augoeides-222@ comcast.net" <Augoeides-222@ comcast.net>
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>>>Cass, Morten,
>>>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small residual of
>Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original species that had been
there
>and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>---- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>>
>>>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, and probably like
>us enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot spring. lol They
>would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth!
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk >
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>Interesting.
>>>>Some of them must, as I see it, be considered to have been created by
>ordinary humans, because their creation are imprecise and angles
incorrect
>or non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so.
>>>>
>>>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom.
>>>>
>>>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:
>>>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that if they
>are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of
>poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the angels
as a
>beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and a
>delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a
diversity
>in its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of
>Lebanon, from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro
to the
>Apollo Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and there
must be
>as a result quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same laws
will
>fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our
plane,
>including in it all our planets. How much more different then must be
>external nature in other Solar systems, and how foolish is it to judge of
other
>stars and worlds and human beings by our own, as physical
>>>science does! "
>>>>
>>>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars?
>>>>
>>>>M. Sufilight
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>>>
>>>>Morten,
>>>>Here is a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific
>message some alledge:
>>>>
>>>>>>> __http://www.earthfil_ (http://www.earthfil/) _
(_http://www.earthfil_ (http://www.earthfil/) /) es.com/news.
>php?ID=1578& category= Environment< <<
>>>>
>>>>And because the message is about the Sun's activity here are the Solar
>Observatory SOHO links:
>>>>
>>>>The Solar and Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO)
>>>>
>>>>>>> __http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./) _ (_http://sohowww._
(http://sohowww./) /) nascom.nasa. gov/home.
>html<<<
>>>>
>>>>The Latest SOHO Images
>>>>
>>>>>>> __http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./) _ (_http://sohowww._
(http://sohowww./) /) nascom.nasa. gov/data/
>realtime- images.html< <<
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>>>
>>>>Yes. The links says the following:
>>>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely secularised.
>Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism
had
>been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern culture, including the
>search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and the study of
religions.
>It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a Russian
>medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New York
in
>1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and Western
traditions
>in an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main aims:
>>>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity,
without
>distinction of race, creed, caste or colour.
>>>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy and
>science.
>>>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in
>man."
>>>>
>>>>- - -
>>>>
>>>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them,
that
>the above is not entirely true.
>>>>
>>>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just
>before H. P. Blavatsky died was:
>>>>
>>>>"The objects of the Theosophical Society are: First. - To form the
>nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of
race,
>creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of Aryan and
>other Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and to
>demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To investigate
unexplained laws
>of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. "
>>>>(The Theosophist - January 1891)
>>>>
>>>>- - -
>>>>
>>>>Further one aught to realize that the original aims when The
>Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat different
words, which the
>Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its official Internet
>article:
>>>>
>>>>"The objects of the society are, to collect and diffuse a knowledge of
>the laws which govern the universe."
>>>>...
>>>>"Preamble of the T.S.
>>>>
>>>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum, September
>1947, pp. 515-18
>>>>The title of the Theosophical Society explains the objects and desires
>of its founders: they seek "to obtain knowledge of the nature and
>attributes of the Supreme Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of
physical
>processes." In other words, they hope, that by going deeper than modern
>science has hitherto done, into the esoteric philosophies of ancient
times, they
>may be enabled to obtain, for themselves and other investigators, proof
of
>the existence of an "Unseen Universe," the nature of its inhabitants, if
>such there be, and the laws which govern them and their relations with
>mankind.
>>>>
>>>>Whatever may be the private opinions of its members, the society has
no
>dogmas to enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as a
>Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any sectarian
or
>philosophic body. Its only axiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only
creed
>a profession of unqualified devotion to its discovery and propagation. In
>considering the qualifications of applicants for membership, it knows
>neither race, sex, color, country nor creed.
>>>>
>>>>That all the members of a society should acquire an equal degree of
>knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected. Knowledge
is
>always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and
>susceptibility to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and
the most
>perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain or attain. To all,
however,
>are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle and conduct, and love of
>truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a
long
>course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman
has to
>serve his apprenticeship before he can be journeyman or master. So
>theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points of science and art,
exacts from
>its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish
>devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a purity of life
and
>thought commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed task, before
>>
>>>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with
>powers not shared by meaner souls.
>>>>
>>>>The founders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a
solemn
>conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties,
>intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which the
>Spiritualists have neglected, the Materialists have not attempted, and
the Theologians
>have misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a
>conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animated solely
by
>an earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may be found; and
>esteem no obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them for
>relinquishing it.
>>>>
>>>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence of immortality as
>will satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to her opponents
for
>an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind, from the
earliest
>periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations with
>the departed, are unable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the
>longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its future existence
goes
>unsatisfied; the laws of intercommunication between the visible and the
>invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of the two
>eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of
>churches and academies." .......and more.......
>>>>
>>>> __http://www.theosoci_ (http://www.theosoci/) _
(_http://www.theosoci_ (http://www.theosoci/) /) ety.org/pasadena
>/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm
>>>>
>>>>M. Sufilight says:
>>>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught not to be
>rooted out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim
to
>promote the idea.
>>>>
>>>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern doctrines on
>wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this we will
have
>to recognize. - Some have sought to build a bridge between them and
>calling such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put
their
>own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never be
based
>on a blind belief where rest of reason is promoted and the possible
>development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom Teachings operates
through
>groups and organisations carrying various names and not only those who
pride
>themselves by the use of the name "theosophical" . And we will know them
on
>their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest
search
>after the truth without multicultural religiously- related bigotry.
>>>>
>>>>M. Sufilight
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Anand
>>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:21 AM
>>>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
>>>>
>>>>I got this link just now.
>>>> __http://www.vatican._ (http://www.vatican./) _
(_http://www.vatican._ (http://www.vatican./) /) va/roman_ curia/pontif
>ical _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_ doc_20030203_
new-age_en.
>html
>>>>Best
>>>>Anand Gholap
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