Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
Jul 30, 2009 09:22 PM
by Drpsionic
I won't. Hypnosis is virtually useless in dealing with addiction unless
the person is able to quit without it.
Besides, I don't do that sort of thing. My experiments are in a much more
interesting field.
Chuck the heretic
In a message dated 7/30/2009 9:12:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
ah, well how about working your magic on my smoking presuming you are able
to 'remote' hypnotise!! lol
Cass
>
>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) "
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
>Sent: Friday, 31 July, 2009 12:20:02 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>
>
>Probably.
>
>I've done it for over forty years now.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/30/2009 12:58:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
>
>Have you ever been hypnotised Chuck?
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@From: "_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. From: "_Drps
><_Drpsionic@_Drpsionic@<WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ ya
>>Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2009 3:14:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>
>>
>>Hitler never hypnotized anyone. He simply appealed to pre-existing
>>beliefs and used well-known methods of persuasion and body language.
>>
>>And yes, anyone can be hypnotized without their knowledge or consent.
The
>>idea that it is not possible is one of the great nonsense myths around
>>hypnosis which hypnotists find in their interest to continue having
>people
>>believe.
>>
>>And no, they normally do not lose consciousness, nor is it desirable
that
>>they should in most cases. It is sufficient to remove memory. As far as
>>the smoking business is concerned, there are simply limits to what
>hypnosis
>>can do. It is very hard to remove a chemical dependancy.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/29/2009 8:56:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>yahoo.
>>
>>Wanna bet its not will. How did Hitler manage to mass hypnotise half the
>>german nation? It is impossible to hypnotise a person without their
>>knowing and without their consent. I have been hypnotised many times
(for
>>smoking) one doesn't even lose consciousness. Only one hypnotiser (over
>20 years
>>ago now)was successful. I restarted, by choice, and none of the others
>>have been able to hypnotise me into quitting.
>>
>>And no, I did not want to quit the first time, even told him that I had
>no
>>intention of quitting but was here to appease my mother. Didn't matter
>>to him.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
yahoog
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009 2:44:55 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>
>>>
>>>Will has nothing to do with it. It is simply a matter of finding the
>keys
>>>that activate certain thinking processes and then using suggestion to
do
>>>the rest. You can effectively hypnotize a person without the other
>person
>>>even knowing that he was hypnotized.
>>>
>>>For example, years ago a young friend of mine was taking a math class
>and
>>>was convinced that she was going to fail the final exam because she was
>>>drawing a blank on certain things she knew would be on the test. I was
>>talking
>>>to her on the phone and every so often would drop my voice an octave
and
>>>tell her that she would remember everything when the time came. And
that
>>>was all I needed to do.
>>>
>>>She passed the test easily because while taking it, the suggestion I
>>>planted kicked in and her own mind did the rest of the work.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/28/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>Hypnotism relies on one person's will being stronger than anothers,
>>thereby
>>>allowing a hypnotists suggestion to take hold.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_
>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 7:06:41 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>According to TS Glossary we have:
>>>>
>>>>"Hypnotism (Gr.). A name given by Dr. Braid to various processes by
>>which
>>>one person of strong
>>>>will-power plunges another of weaker mind into a kind of trance; once
>in
>>>such a state the latter will do anything suggested to him by the
>>>hypnotiser. Unless produced for beneficial purposes, Occultists would
>>call it black
>>>magic or Sorcery. It is the most dangerous of practices, morally and
>>>physically, as it interferes with the nerve fluid and the nerves
>>controlling the
>>>circulation in the capillary blood-vessels. "
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>>>>
>>>>Maybe there is a clue in the fact that various drugs influences the
>>blood
>>>and/ or nerves in the brain etc.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Cass Silva
>>>>To: theos-l@yahoogroups .com
>>>>Cc: Theosophy
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:24 AM
>>>>Subject: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>
>>>>A question. If schitzophrenia is a state of (temporary) possession,
how
>>>is it that schizophrenic drugs can control the possessed?
>>>>
>>>>Cass
>>>>
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