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Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]

Feb 14, 2010 09:19 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen


Come to think of it, I regret that I did not write J. Krishnamurti into it.
:-)


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Morten Nymann Olesen 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]


    
  :-)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Drpsionic@aol.com 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]

  I have every reason to think that we will all wake up on 1-1-2013 with a 
  very good laugh at those who thought that anything was going to happen in 
  2012.

  Chuck the Heretic

  _www.charlescosimano.com 

  In a message dated 2/13/2010 11:49:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
  global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:

  I Agree.

  - - -

  To the prophetically interested, I will suggest to them, that they sit 
  down for a few minutes and really 
  do try to read the following number of the more wellknown predictions 
  through the latest centuries...

  They have been taken mainly from 

  _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
  _http://www.bible.http://www.bhttp://www._ (http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm) 
  I have not been able to confirm all of the mentioned predictions, but most 
  of them should be allright.

  Read the below excerpts and have a good heartily laugh...:-)

  1830
  The Church of Christ. More recently, in the 1800's, Joseph Smith claimed 
  to have translated golden plates through divine inspiration from Jesus, 
  thereby producing the Book of Mormon. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of 
  Latter-Day Saints believe that their founder was a "latter-day" prophet. 

  1843-1844
  William Miller was the founder of an end-times movement that was so 
  prominent it received its own name-- Millerism. From his studies of the Bible, 
  Miller determined that the second coming would happen sometime between 
  1843-1844. A spectacular meteor shower in 1833 gave the movement a good push 
  forward. The build up of anticipation continued until March 21, 1844, when 
  Miller's one year time table ran out. Some followers set another date of Oct 
  22, 1844. This too failed, collapsing the movement. One follower described 
  the da_ys after the failed predictions, "The world made merry over the old 
  Prophet's predicament. The taunts and jeers of the 'scoffers' were well-nigh 
  unbearable." 
  (Se also _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) 
  _http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en.wikiphttp://en.wiht_ 
  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_(preacher)) )

  1863
  In 1863, BahÃ'u'llÃh, the founder of the BahÃ'Ã Faith, claimed the he is 
  the 'Promised One' of all Religions. And Baha'is see both the Jewish and 
  Christian scriptures, especially the books of Isaiah, Daniel, Micah, and 
  Revelation as containing many prophecies promising the coming of Baha'u'llah and 
  the Baha'i Faith. He is not acknowledged by Christians, Jews or Muslims as 
  the 'Promised One' as the significant events of the End Time did not occur 
  during his lifetime. 

  1910
  The revisit of Haley's comet was, for many, an indication of the Lord's 
  second coming. The earth actually passed through the gaseous tail of the 
  comet. One enterprising man sold comet pills to people for protection against 
  the effects of the toxic gases. 

  1914
  was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of 
  Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They 
  computed 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings 
  referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360 
  days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as 
  representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 
  as the target date. - Charles Russell, after being exposed to the teachings 
  of William Miller, founded his own organization - the Jehovah's Witnesses. 
  In 1914 Russell predicted the return of Jesus Christ. 

  1967
  When the city of Jerusalem was reclaimed by the Jews in 1967, prophecy 
  watchers declared that the "Time of the Gentiles" had come to an end. 

  1970'ties
  The late Moses David (formerly David Berg) was the founder of the 
  Christian religious group, The Children of God. He predicted that a comet would hit 
  the earth, probably in the mid 1970's and destroy all life in the United 
  States. 

  1975
  The Jehovah's Witnesses were back at it in 1975. The failure of the 
  forecast did not affect the growth of the movement. The Watchtower magazine, a 
  major Witness periodical, has over 13 million subscribers. 

  1982
  A group called the Tara Centers placed full-page advertisements in many 
  major newspapers for the weekend of April 24-25, 1982, announced: "The Christ 
  is Now Here!" and predicted that he was to make himself known "within the 
  next two months." After the date passed, they said that the delay was only 
  because the "consciousness of the human race was not quite right..." Boy, 
  all these years and we're still not ready. 

  1983
  In 1983, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Guru of the Rajneesh movement predicted 
  massive destruction on earth, including natural disasters and man-made 
  catastrophes. Floods larger than any since Noah, extreme earthquakes, very 
  destructive volcano eruptions, nuclear wars etc. will be experienced. Tokyo, New 
  York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Bombay will all disappear. - (The 
  happening would arrive between 1984-1999; M. Sufilight)

  1986
  Moses David of The Children of God faith group predicted that the Battle 
  of Armageddon would take place in 1986. Russia would defeat Israel and the 
  United States. A worldwide Communist dictatorship would be established. In 
  1993, Christ would return to earth. 

  1988
  The book "88 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1988" came out only a few 
  months before the event was to take place. What little time the book had, it 
  used effectively. By the time Sept 11-13 rolled around, whole churches were 
  caught up in the excitement the book generated. I personally had friends who 
  were measuring themselves for wings. In the dorm where we lived, my friends 
  were also openly confronting all of the unsaved. It became my job to 
  defuse to situations. In one case, an accosted sinner was contemplating 
  dispensary action against my now distant friends. Finally, the days of destiny 
  dawned and then set. No Jesus. The environment was not the same as Miller's 
  1844 failure. To my surprise, the taunting by the unsaved was very brief. 
  1989
  After the passing of the deadline in 88 Reason's, the author, Edgar 
  Whisenaunt, came out with a new book called "89 Reasons why the Rapture is in 
  1989." This book sold only a fraction of his prior release. (And we wonder 
  why?)

  1990'ties
  In 1992, David Koresh of the Branch Davidian group in Waco Texas changed 
  the name of their commune from Mt. Carmel to Ranch Apocalypse, because of 
  his belief that the final all-encompassing battle of Armageddon mentioned in 
  the Bible would start at the Branch Davidian compound. They had calculated 
  that the end would occur in 1995. After a 51-day standoff, on 1993-APR-10, 
  76 members died as a result of a deliberately set fire. 

  1991
  A local group in Australia predicted Jesus would return through the Sydney 
  Harbor at 9:00 am on 31st March, 1991. 

  1994
  Harold Camping in his book "Are You Ready?" predicted the Lord's return in 
  Sept 1994. The book was full of methods that added up Bible numbers up to 
  1994 as the date of Christ's return. 

  1995
  Armageddon Delayed! Jwâs

  In early November 1995 Jehovah's Witnesses made newspaper headlines around 
  the world. This time it was not a record crowd at a stadium convention or 
  even a controversial blood transfusion case that attracted international 
  attention, but the postponement of the End. One headline read: "Armageddon 
  Not Coming," and the related article stated that Jehovah's Witnesses had 
  announced that "Armageddon [had] been delayed and [that] the end of the world 
  [was] no longer nigh." (Victoria Times-Colonist, Sunday 12 November 1995, p. 
  A2)

  1996
  California psychic Sheldon Nidle predicted the end would come when 16 
  million space ships converged upon the Earth on Dec. 17, 1996, along with a 
  host of angels. Nidle explained the passing of the date by claiming the angles 
  placed us in a holographic projection to preserve us and give us a second 
  chance. 

  1997 
  The 1997-JUL-29 issue of the Weekly World News reported that the biggest 
  end of the world scare since the Cuban missile crisis was circulating 
  through Washington. President Clinton called a secret meeting with leading Bible 
  scholars for the week of JUL-27. A confidential Pentagon memo sparked the 
  scare; it predicts a worldwide cataclysm of unprecedented proportions. 
  Earthquake activity is on a rise and will peak at year-end; the earth's crust 
  is shifting ominously. 

  1997-1999
  Russian scientist Vladimir Sobolyovhas of the Rerikh Academy has analyzed 
  prophesies made by Russian saints, by Nostradamus etc. (6) He announced his 
  conclusions in1997-SEP: that the earth's axis will suddenly tilt about 30 
  degrees sometime during the next two years. This will submerge the 
  Scandinavian countries and Britain under water, in what is termed the Armageddon 
  Flood. Siberia will be spared. He expects that aliens will intervene and lead 
  the world into the fourth dimension. Right now, these aliens are on earth, 
  but in hiding. Sobolyovhas said: "If we completely believed in them, we 
  would get lazy. So they are clever. They stay hidden in the fourth dimension 
  and only show themselves from time to time.'' 

  1998
  The famous psychic Edgar Cayce predicted that a secret, underground 
  chamber would be discovered between the paws of the Great Sphinx. Inside, there 
  will be documents revealing the history of Atlantis. This revelation will 
  trigger the Second Coming of Christ. This prediction is rather interesting, 
  because two independent studies have revealed that there is in fact an 
  underground structure just where Cayce said it would be!

  Edgar Casey predicted that the earth would have a new pole during the 
  winter of 1997-1998. Since the earth spins like a gyroscope, this would take an 
  enormous amount of energy to achieve. That amount of energy would cause a 
  massive disruption to the oceans and the earth's crust. That could, in 
  turn, cause very serious, worldwide tidal waves, earthquakes and volcanic 
  eruptions. 

  1999
  TV newscaster-turned-TV newscaster-turned-<WBR>psychic Charles Criswell 
  King said in 1968 that the world as we know it will cease to exis

  1999
  Hon-Ming Chen has founded God's Salvation Church in Texas. The group 
  believes that a nuclear war will destroy parts of Earth in 1999. They have 
  identified a nine-year old boy as the "Jesus of the East", a reincarnation of 
  Jesus Christ. They believe that if they can link him up with the "Jesus of 
  the West" then 100 million lives will be spared. The second Jesus is supposed 
  to live in Vancouver BC, look like Abraham Lincoln, and have been born in 
  late 1969. Their search was unsuccessful. 

  2001
  Charles Spiegel, a retired psychology professor, preaches from a small 
  town near San Diego CA that the ancient land of Atlantis will emerge from the 
  Caribbean circa 2001 CE. Shortly thereafter, 1000 extra-terrestrials from 
  "Myton" in 33 spaceships will land there and bring new knowledge to 
  humanity. 

  2011
  Another prediction about oct. 2011 from the book: "We Are Almost There" by 
  Harold Camping and Brian Miller D.S.
  Grand Rapids, MI. (God will be early out and strike before you know it! - 
  smile; M. Sufilight )

  2012
  Michael Drosnin, author of "The Bible Code," found a hidden message in the 
  Pentateuch (the first five books in the Bible) that predicts that a_ comet 
  will crash into the earth in 2012 and annihilate all life. 

  2012
  New Age writers cite Mayan and Aztec calendars which predict the end of 
  the age on Dec 21, 2012. 
  And several New Age'ers have gone mad with similar predictions for the 
  same year.
  I say: There will according to astronomers however be certain alignments 
  among the stars. 

  And much more of the same...

  - - -

  I will predict, that if the physical world will be destroyed, the 
  non-physical will not.
  The Divine is within all humans. We just need to wake up from a silly 
  dream.
  There is no need to go around seeking to scare each other with prophecies 
  of the most wildest kind.
  And when you say: "I do not believe it", - I will say: "That is why you 
  fail!"

  To the prophetic readers: 
  Do you still - believe - that major events of destruction will happen in 
  2012 compared with 2001 or 2011?
  I wil say, that it is better to know about all the good that will happen.

  M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
  (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) _ 
  To: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
  (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) _ 
  Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:35 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]

  They were not so much charlatans as simply, utterly, totally wrong. 
  Nothing is happening on earth that has not happened before or will not 
  happen 
  again.

  Yes, the bean counters are to be discounted.

  Chuck the Heretic

  _www.charlescosiman_www.c

  In a message dated 2/12/2010 5:54:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
  _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ 
  (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) _ writes:

  So the Mayans who are regarded as master astronomers are to be discounted 
  as charletans? I think or believe that the earth is going through a minor 
  cycle and hence the reason for so many climatic changes

  Cass

  >
  >From: "

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  >Sent: Sat, 13 February, 2010 3:35:20 AM
  >Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]
  >
  > 
  >Because the 2012 stuff is nonsense and the TS does not want to look more 
  >silly than it already does.
  >
  >Chuck the Heretic
  >
  >_www.charlescosima_www.charles
  >
  >In a message dated 2/11/2010 6:21:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
  >silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>ya
  >
  >Those dugpas are doing their best to drown Sydney at the moment! Seeing 
  >there is so much talk around 2012 why has the TS remained silent?
  >
  >Cass
  >
  >>
  >>From: "
  >
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  >>Sent: Fri, 12 February, 2010 2:17:51 AM
  >>Subject: Theos-World Re: [bad text]
  >>
  >> 
  >>Does that mean that Theosophists are supposed to be heavily armed gangs 
  >>terrorizing the countryside? Have you looked at what Rio is like these 
  >days? 
  >>I mean I can really get into the heavily armed gang terrorizing the 
  >>countryside in the name of Theosophy but somehow I doubt that is what 
  >they had 
  >>in mind.
  >>
  >>Chuck the Heretic
  >>
  >>www.charlescosimawww.charlesco
  >>
  >>In a message dated 2/11/2010 8:02:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
  >>mkr777@gmail. com writes:
  >>
  >>Background to âManorâ and future role of Rio de Janeiro
  >>
  >>The âManorâ center in Sydney, Australia is the only theosophical center 

  >in
  >>the southern hemisphere of the world. According to published information,
  >>before Sydney was selected for the southern center, Rio de Janeiro, 
  Brazil
  >>was also considered and it was expected that Rio will play an important 
  >>part
  >>in the future. More on this later.
  >>
  >>When Manor center was started, it was met with a lot of difficulty and
  >>opposition from the Brothers of Shadow because there was remaining of the
  >>old Lemurian influence to furnish suitable material for the 
  unscrupulous. 
  >>Of
  >>course trouble was created through members of the TS.
  >>
  >>It is obvious that we see continuous opposition from the dark forces 
  since
  >>the founding of the TS. We have no reason to doubt they are not behind 
  the
  >>events that TS has seen from the start of the nomination process for
  >>election of the International President to the current condition of 
  >>cleavage
  >>among the leaders world-wide who are supposed to work for unity which is 
  >>the
  >>keyword of real theosophists.
  >>
  >>Perhaps the Dugpas and the Lemurian influence have succeeded in joining
  >>hands and in one sweep were able to muster whole bunch of leaders to do
  >>their work; of course the leaders may not be conscious of their being 
  >used.
  >>
  >>The fact that Rio was also considered for the center before Sydney was
  >>selected, points to the important role it will play in the future. Recent
  >>increased theosophical activities in Brazil may be the beginning of the
  >>increased role Brazil is going to play. The opposition to the activities
  >>from some leaders from other countries sounds familiar to anyone who has
  >>followed the history of TS. At every step of any good that TS and its
  >>members try to do to help the humanity, you immediately see the 
  opposition
  >>from the dark forces. Once we are conscious of this fact, it would be 
  >ver_y
  >>easy for any theosophist to decide which side they should be on.
  >>
  >>I hope the above should give a better perspective of what is going on in
  >>Brazil and why all theosophist should support it.
  >>
  >>MKR
  >>
  >>PS: Some of the info above was from Joseph Ross' books on Krotona, which 
  >is
  >>a gold mine of info not available anywhere else.
  >>
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