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Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!

Feb 15, 2010 07:59 AM
by Drpsionic


There is no act better than an heretical one.  
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
_www.charlescosimano.com  

 
In a message dated 2/14/2010 10:55:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:

 
 
 
No.
There was never any excommunications in the TS in the period  1875-1891.
People were expelled out of compassion. This is the  truth.

If we continue like you seem to want it, we will create people  who never 
will stop continue to commit heretical acts.
:-)

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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010  5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its  
original lines!

Because excommunication does not work. It merely  creates martyrs on one 
hand and rivals on the other.

Chuck the  Heretic

_www.charlescosiman_www.c

In a message dated  2/13/2010 10:58:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
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(mailto:global-theosophy@stofanet.dk) _ writes:

Now, some of us willI  wonder why it was silly?

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Sent: Saturday, February 13,  2010 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back  to its 
original lines!

Yes, it was silly for her to do  that.

Chuck the Heretic

www.charlescosimanowww.c

In  a message dated 2/12/2010 10:59:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
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Dear Cass and  friends

I hold your view to be against the esoterical theosophical  teachings - and 
so does H. P. Blavatsky in her Esoteric papers as far as I  can tell. 
The Masters have had groups for many years where they only allow  certain 
members to participate.
Various Chelas have also had groups  where only certain members are allowed.

Are you saying that H. P.  Blavatsky was wrong when she and the others 
kicked Charles Sotheran out of  the Theosophical Society?
Are you also saying that H. P. Blavatsky was  wrong when she kicked Mabel 
Collins out of her Esoteric Section and  refused to accept everyone in her 
Esoteric Section?

Let me seek to  explain why...

1.
H. P. Blavatsky said in her Esoteric Section  papers:
"Having omitted, however, the usual precautions of the probationary  
period, I have but myself to thank; and therefore, it is but just that I  
should 
also be myself the first to suffer for it at the hands of the  inexorable 
Karmic law. For this, ironclad as I have been made by daily and  almost 
hourly 
unjust attacks, I would have cared but very little; but  that which I 
deplore the mostââwith a bitterness few of you will ever  realizeââis the 
fact 
that such a number of thoroughly earnest, good,  and sincere men and women 
should be made to suffer for the guilt of the  few. For, though but a fault 
of 
omission on my part, still that guilt,  as I feel, is due to my neglect. 
Behold! my Karma appeared as a warning  almost from the beginning of the 
E.S."
...
"I had started well.  Several of those whom I knew to be entirely unfitted 
to take the pledge  have been refused from the first; but I proved unable 
to 
withstand  their prayers when certain of them declared to me that it was 
their âlast  chance in life.â The âpledge feverâ made short work of their 
promises. One  broke her vows only four days after signing her pledge, 
becoming guilty of  the blackest treachery and disloyalty to her HIGHER 
SELF. And 
when I  could no longer keep in the E.S. either herself or her friend, the 
two  convulsed the whole Society with their calumnies and falsehoods. Then 
it  
was that the old wondering query, âHow is it that âpoor H.P.B.,â  
notwithstanding the Masters at her back, and her own insight, is so  
evidently unable 
to know her friends from her foes?â ran once more the  round of 
theosophical circles, both here and in America.
Brothers, if  you will judge from appearances, and from the worldly 
standpoint, you are  right; but if you take the trouble of looking into the 
inner 
causes  producing outward results, you will find that you are decidedly in 
the  wrong. That you should no longer do me injustice, let me explain what 
I  
mean."
.......
"[And now I sincerely hope that you willââsome of  you, at leastââlearn a 
lesson from my weakness, and show your appreciation  of this by not judging 
me too unkindly if I now change somewhat my policy.  For I have to either 
do so, or to drop the Esoteric teachings altogether,  for those at any 
rate, 
who will disagree with this arrangement. To  avoid repeating the mistake, 
this is what I propose doing. Each Paper will  be sent as it was hitherto, 
only it will appear as a Supplement to the  Ethics and teachings which will 
impart the rules of Discipline and the  laws of Discipleship, as in the 
case of 
all Probationers.all Probationers.<WBR<WBR>"[And now I sincerely hope that 
you 
w
at  leastââlearn a lesson from my weakness, and show your appreciation of 
this  by not judging me too unkindly if I n

âSpeak not the mysteries to the  common vulgar, nor to the casual friend, 
or new disciple. With prudent eye  to the possible consequences, keep 
locked 
within your breast the  teachings received, until you find a listener who 
will understand your  words and sympathize with your aspirations.â
This does not mean that you  are at liberty to repeat what you have learned 
to anyone whom you believe  to answer that descriptio_n, but that you can 
exchange views with your  co-disciples who are pledg_ed as you are 
yours_elf."

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2.
H. P. Blavatsky said  in her Esoteric Section papers:
"The Masters can give but little assistance  to a Body not thoroughly 
united in purpose and feeling, and which breaks  its first fundamental rule
ââ
universal brotherly love, without  distinction of race, creed or colour; 
nor to 
a Society, many members  of which pass their lives in judging, condemning, 
and often reviling other  members in a most untheosophical, not to say 
disgraceful, manner.
For  this reason it is now contemplated to gather the âelectâ of the T.S. 
and  to call them to action. It is only by a select group of brave souls, a 
 
handful of determined men and women hungry for genuine spiritual  
development and the acquirement of soul-wisdom, that the Theosophical  
Society at 
large can be brought back to its original lines. It is  through an Esoteric 
Section aloneââi.e., a group in which all the members,  even if 
unacquainted 
with one another, work for each other, and by  working for all work for 
themselvesââthat the great Exoteric Society may  be redeemed and made to 
realize 
that in union and harmony alone lie  its strength and power. The object of 
this Section, then, is to help the  future growth of the Theosophical 
Society 
as a whole in the true  direction, by promoting brotherly union at least 
among the  few."
.......
"As to the relations of the Masters to this Section, it  may be further 
said, paradoxically, that with Them everything is possible  and everything 
impossible. They may or may not communicate personally on  the outer plane 
with 
a member, and those who are continually wishing  to receive âordersâ or 
communications directly from Them on this plane,  either phenomenally or 
otherwise, will in all probability be disappointed.  The Masters have no 
desire 
to prove Their power or give âtestsâ to  anyone whatever. And the fact 
that a 
member has concluded that a  crisis of some kind or other is at hand, when, 
according to his wise  opinion, the Master or Masters ought to speak a_nd 
interfe_re personally,  is no sound r_eason for such an outward 
interference.i
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3.
H. P. Blavatsky  said in her Esoteric Section papers:
"NOTICE
Members of the E.S.T.  receiving this Instruction will understand from its 
receipt that they have  passed out of the First Probationary Degree of the 
E. S. T. into the  Second Probationary Degree. The students in the Second 
Degree must not  discuss this Instruction with anyone still in the First 
Degree; they must  remain absolutely silent upon it, except to such persons 
as may 
be  notified to them as belonging to the Second or Third Degrees by Annie  
Besant or William Q. Judge. Any breach of this rule of silence will be an  
absolute bar to receiving any further Instructions.a
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Do you think that the  Masters would reveal all their teachings to the 
vulgar when in a group  among the chelas?

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message -----  
From: Cass Silva 
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Sent: Friday, February 12,  2010 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back  to its 
original lines!

No, on the contrary Morten, I don't believe  in any elite group being set 
up within an organization as this promotes  division of its members into 
the 
'blessed' and the 'unclean'. I have  no problem with study groups formed 
around esoteric ideas but these should  be open to all.

Cass

>
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>Sent: Fri, 12 February,  2010 3:02:36 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society  back to its 
original lines!
>
> 
>Dear  Cass
>
>My views are:
>
>So you agree with me, that a  secretive Esoteric Group, which requires 
approval before membership or  opportunity to be taught is achived, might 
be a 
helpful  idea?
>
>Some might consider the Secret Dcotrine to be a Bible. I  would however 
say, that it is quite false to compare them to have anything  in common 
since 
the Bible is turned into something infallible, whereas  the Secret Doctrine 
never have claimed to be infallible or to be a Bible  of any dead-letter or 

narrowminded dogmatic and fanatical  interpretation.
>
>As I see it, we also have to keep the following  in mind...
>
>The compassionate theosophist and the Sufi operates  through the use of 
DESIGNs and MEASURINGs. Each teaching, book, lecture,  e-mail etc. etc. is 
a 
DESIGN. After such a DESIGN has been presented,  to the receiver(s) of it, 
the message, reacts on the individual in various  ways. Depending on the 
reaction and the impact the message has or have -  the Initiate or 
Initiates 
MEASURES the receiver(s). After a while a  new DESIGN will be presented, 
maybe 
by another person or by other  means. This teaching about DESIGN and 
MEASURING is ages old. HPB talked a  bit about it. The Sufis are called the 
Designers, and sometimes also  masons, i.e. the Eastern compassionate 
masons.
>
>Taken from A  CURRICULUM OF A SCHOOL
>"Man has few alternatives in his search for  truth. He may rely upon his
>unaided intellect, and gamble that he is  capable of perceiving truth or 
even
>the way to truth. This is a  poor, but an attractive, gamble. Or he can
>gamble upon the claims of an  individual or institution which claims to 
have
>such a way. This  gamble, too, is a poor one. Aside from a very few, wo/men
>in general  lack a sufficiently developed perception to tell them:"
>
>1. Not  to trust their own unaided mentation;
>
>2. Who or what to  trust.
>
>"There are, in consequence, two main schools of thought  in this matter. 
Some
>say 'Follow your own promptings'; the other  says: 'Trust this or that
>intuition'. Each is really useless to the  ordinary wo/man. Each will help
>him use up his  time."
>
>"The bitter truth is that before man can know his own  inadequacy, or the
>competence of another man or institution, he must  first learn something
>which will enable him to perceive both. Note well  that his perception 
itself
>is a product of right study; not of  instinct or emotional attraction to 
the
>individual, nor yet of  desiring to 'go it alone'. This is 'Learning How  
To
>Learn."
>
>"All this means, of course, that we are  postulating here the need for
>preparatory study before school work  takes place. We deny that a man can
>study and properly benefit from  school work until he is equipped for it: 
any
>more than a person can  study space-navigation unless he has a grasp of
>mathematics.  "
>
>"This is not to say that a man (or a woman) cannot have a  sensation of
>truth. But the unorganized and fragmented mind which is  most people's
>heritage tends to distort the quality and quantity of  this sensation,
>leading to almost completely false conclusions about  what can or should be
>done."
>
>"This is not to say,  either, that man cannot take part in studies and
>activities which  impinge upon that portion of him which is connected with 
a
>higher  life and cognition. But the mere application of special  techniques
>[often to everyone, regardless of their current state and  requirements] 
will
>not transform that man's consciousness. It will  only feed into, and
>disturb, more or less permanently, centers of  thought and feeling where it
>does not belong. Thus it is that something  which should be a blessing
>becomes a curse. Sugar, shall we say, for a  normal person is nutritionally
>useful. To a diabetic, it can be  poison."
>
>"Therefore, before the techniques of study and  development are made
>available to the student, he must be enabled to  profit by them in the
>direction in which they are supposed to lead, not  in short-term 
indulgence."
>
>"Thus our curriculum takes two  parts: the first is in the providing of
>materials of a preparatory  nature, in order to equip the individual to
>become a student. The  second is the development itself."
>
>"If we, or anybody else,  supply such study or preparatory material
>prematurely, it will only  operate on a lower level than it could. The 
result
>will be harmless  at best. At worst, it will condition, train, the mind of
>the individual  to think and behave in patterns which are nothing less than
>automatic.  In this latter way one can make what seem to be converts,
>unwittingly  play upon emotions, on lesser desires and the conditioning
>propensity;  train people to loyalty to individuals, found and maintain
>institutions  which seem more or less serious or constructive. But no real
>progress  towards knowledge of the human being and the other dimension in
>which  he partly lives will in fact be made... ... ...."
>
>Taken partly  from: "Learning How to Learn" by the Afghan sufi-author  
Idries
>Shah
>
>M. Sufilight
>
>-----  Original Message ----- 
>From: Cass Silva 
>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:00  AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its  
original lines!
>
>>From what HPB said, we are given only what  we can absorb and assimilate. 
No point in giving us esoteric knowledge  that we are not ready for. The 
Secret Doctrine is not unlike the Bible in  that it was written for both 
exoteric and esoteric students, so whatever  level the reader is at, it 
provides  
guidance.
>
>Cass
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From:  Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>Sent: Thu, 11 February, 2010 2:58:47  AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to  its 
original lines!
>>
>> 
>>Dear Cass and  friends
>>
>>My views are:
>>
>>A new  Esoterical School might be necessary or a good and compassionate. 
Remember  that we emply agents in various groups and organisations. But I 
find, that  another Theosophical Society following the original lines would 
be 
a  much better idea, - well provided that the present Theosophical Society 
is  not able to show us that they still follow the original lines given by 
the  Masters, and why their lines or program are better than the original  
one.
>>
>>Such a Knowledge is esoterical knowledge. And  that kind of Knowledge is 
not, (so I have been told here at Theos-talk),  officially claimed by the 
leaders Theosophical Society today. An example:  Try to ask the Master 
whether 
they consider their Himalayan group to  be an elite group. Do you think 
that the Masters Himalayan group will  reveal all and everything esoterical 
to  
everyone?
>>
>>M. Sufilight
>>
>>-----  Original Message ----- 
>>From: Cass Silva 
>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:54  PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to  its 
original lines!
>>
>>I hope you are not suggesting  that new esoteric schools be formed? What 
knowledge is so esoteric that it  can now only be shared by an elite  group?
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From:  Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>>To:  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>>Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010  6:18:19 AM
>>>Subject: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society  back to its 
original lines!
>>>
>>>  
>>>Dear friends
>>>
>>>My views  are:
>>>
>>>Sometimes one would do well in reading the  words given by H. P. 
Blavatsky
>>>about the reason for the  formation of the Esoteric Section...
>>>
>>>H. P.  Blavatsky said to the members of the Esoteric Section:
>>>"This  degree of the Esoteric Section is probationary, and its general 
purpose is  to prepare and fit the student for the study of practical 
occultism or Raj  yoga. Therefore, in this degree, the student--save in 
exceptional  
cases--will not be taught how to produce physical phenomena, nor will any  
magical powers be allowed to develop in him; nor, if possessing such  
powers 
naturally, will he be permitted to exercise them before he has  thoroughly 
mastered the knowledge of SELF, of the psycho-physiologica l  processes 
(taking place on the occult plane) in the human body generally,  and until 
he 
has in abeyance all his lower passions and his PERSONAL  SELF.
>>>The real Head of the Esoteric Section is a Master, of  whom H. P. 
Blavatsky is the mouthpiece for this Section. He is one of  those Adepts 
referred 
to in theosophical literature, and concerned in  the formation of the The
osophical Society. "
>>>. . . . . .  .
>>>"The Theosophical Society has just entered upon the  fourteenth year of 
its existence; and if it has accomplished great, one  may almost say 
stupendous, results on the exoteric and utilitarian plane,  it has proved a 
dead 
failure on all those points which rank foremost  among the objects of its 
original establishment. Thus, as a "Universal  Brotherhood, " or even as a 
fraternity, one among many, it has descended  to the level of all those 
Societies 
whose pretensions are great, but  whose names are simply masks,--nay, even 
SHAMS. Nor can the excuse be  pleaded that it was led into such an 
undignified course owing to its  having been
>>>impeded in its natural development, and almost  extinguished, by reason 
of the conspiracies of its enemies openly begun in  1884. Because even 
before that date there never was that solidarity in the  ranks of our 
Society 
which would not only enable it to resist all  external attacks, but also 
make 
it possible for greater, wider, and  more tangible help to be given to all 
its members by those who are always  ready to give help when we are fit to 
receive it. When trouble arose, too  many were quick to doubt and despair, 
and 
few indeed were they who had  worked for the Cause and not for themselves. 
The attacks of the enemy have  given the Society some discretion in the 
conduct of its external progress,  but its real internal condition has not 
improved, and the members, in  their efforts towards spiritual culture, 
still 
require that help which  solidarity in the ranks can alone give them the 
right 
to ask. The  Masters can give but little assistance to a Body not
>>thoroughly  united in purpose and feeling, and which breaks its first 
fundamental  rule--universal brotherly love, without distinction of race, 
creed 
or  colour; nor to a Society, many members of which pass their lives in  
judging, condemning, and often reviling other members in a most  
untheosophical, not to say disgraceful, manner."
>>>. . . . .  . .
>>>"For this reason it is now contemplated to gather the  "elect" of the 
T.S. and to call them to action. It is only by a select  group of brave 
souls, 
a handful of determined men and women hungry for  genuine spiritual 
development and the acquirement of soul-wisdom, that the  Theosophical 
Society at 
large can be brought back to its original  lines. It is through an Esoteric 
Section alone--i.e., a group in which all  the members, even if 
unacquainted 
with one another, work for each  other, and by working for all work for 
themselves-- that the great  Exoteric Society may be redeemed and made to 
realize that in union and  harmony alone lie its strength and power. The 
object of 
this Section,  then, is to help the future growth of the Theosophical 
Society as a whole  in the true direction, by promoting brotherly union at 
least 
among the  few.
>>>All know that this end was in view when the Society was  established, 
and even in its mere unpledged ranks there was a possibility  for 
development 
and knowledge, until it began to show want of real  union; and now it must 
be saved from future dangers by the united aim,  brotherly feeling, and 
constant exertions of the members of this Esoteric  Section. Therefore, 
anyone 
who has signed the pledge without realizing  this is earnestly recommended 
to 
reconsider his position, and to  withdraw unless he is prepared to devote 
himself to the carrying out of  this purpose. Once offered the grand 
example 
_of practical altruism, of  the noble_ lives of those who learn to master 
the 
great knowledge but  to help others, and who strive to acquire power_s but 
to 
place them at  the service of their fellow-men, the whole theosophical 
community may yet  be steered into action, and led to follow the example 
set 
before  them.
>>>The Esoteric Section is thus "set apart" for the  salvation of the whole 

Society, and its course from its first steps  will be an arduous and uphill 
work for its members, though a great reward  lies behind the many obstacles 
once they are overcome.
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>>>M. Sufilight asks and  comments:
>>>I ask your compassionate hearts as honest Seekers  after Truth :
>>>
>>>Do you my dear readers understand  that, the Esoteric Section was 
according to H. P. Blavatsky created in  1888 so that "the Theosophical 
Society at 
large can be brought back to  its original lines"; the lines openly 
deviated from in  1884?
>>>
>>>Did this imply turning it towards a more  or less blurred or openly 
declared political involvement à la A. O. Hume -  National Congress of 
India? I 
would clearly say no, and no a thousand  times!
>>>
>>>Did this imply asserting a Messiah in  the flesh as the World Teacher of 
the Age (The Maitreya) as a dogma or  propagandized doctrine to follow? I 
would clearly say no, and no a  thousand times!
>>>
>>>Did this imply rejecting the  view that "No Theosophist should be silent 
when he hears evil reports or  slanders spread about the Society, or 
innocent persons, whether they be  his coll_eagu_es or outs_iders. " (The 
Key to the 
Theosophist, 2ed.,  1890, p. 250)? I would clearly say no, and no a 
thousand  times!
>>>
>>>Did it only imply this with reagard to  physically present humans or did 
it also imply it with regard deceased  ones? I would clearly say both 
issues count, because people not living in  the physical are present in our 
 

universe!
>>>
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