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Re: Copyright and some of the messages on theos-talk

Apr 17, 2010 12:39 PM
by esapress@ymail.com


And this is where (or one of the places where) the true brilliance of journalism (and the hard work and research of writers and reporters, so on) comes into view.  

It isn't an easy task by any means however when/if stories need to be researched, told, or understood, there is a particular investigation/assessment and research/reporting method that typically ensues; and, yes, there are abiding laws regarding the reporting or publishing too.

It may seem frustrating or limiting however tried and true methods remain successful industry standards for very good reasons.

 
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Agreed.
> 
> However, when political mischief goes on behind the scenes and when one
> finds out the truth, one should be free to bring it out in the open in the
> best interests of everyone. Truth always triumphs and no one should be
> fearful of talking about truth.
> 
> MKR
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM, esapress@... <esapress@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Tabloid journalism would be a sorry theosophical activity, a new low to
> > strive for I suppose. Maybe next theosophists could try opening other
> > people's mail, or rummaging through their garbage cans.
> >
> > Myself, I tend to respect people's property and their privacy. Property is
> > inherently personal, ie it belongs to a person. I don't have a problem with
> > that, those that do will, in time, hopefully mature and learn otherwise.
> >
> > It isn't about embarrassment nor blah blah blah - those are hardly the real
> > issues involved, but I can understand why those angles are up to bat
> > (proposed,) but it's a meddlesome (and kind of socialistic) venue at best
> > for manipulating our reasoning regarding individual rights.
> >
> > The internet is as yet, perhaps, still most closely akin to the Wild West;
> > I tend to agree that it's in everyone's best interest to strive towards
> > improving its civilization, not lessening it.
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Everyone should be law abiding as for copyright and every other issue and
> > I
> > > never suggested that anyone should break any laws.
> > >
> > > At the same time, it is necessary to understand how to work within the
> > law
> > > and yet make our comments and opinions known world-wide without breaking
> > the
> > > law.
> > >
> > > In my msg, I was also bringing attention to the fact how, from time to
> > time,
> > > copyright law was misused attempting to suppress unfavourable or
> > > embarrassing material, usually political in nature, from coming out in
> > the
> > > open. This is done by many people and theosophists are not exempt --
> > should
> > > we remind the famous comment in one of the Master�s letters that the
> > human
> >
> > > nature is the same everywhere. If we are careful about what we write in
> > > private, then any disclosure is not going to hurt the writer or
> > writer�s
> >
> > > reputation. Of course many have learnt the bitter lesson by personal
> > > experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > MKR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM, esapress@ <esapress@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Copyright (so on) laws; these matters do seem to come up every couple
> > of
> > > > years. I think in part it is simply because many people are unfamiliar
> > with
> > > > the publishing industry a/o its actual and accountable standards.
> > > >
> > > > Still, it is not reasonable to skirt these laws nor is it reasonable to
> > > > encourage or condone the use of other people's property without their
> > > > permission - in addition, such intent or types of activities, theft,
> > > > plagiarism, piracy and infringement, for example, could hardly be
> > reasoned
> > > > as an advancement for or activity towards Universal Brotherhood.
> > > >
> > > > He asked for your permission, that is correct; which is hardly a
> > platform
> > > > to suggest that these laws should (or do) somehow work otherwise.
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> >
> > > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Copyright and some of the messages on theos-talk
> > > > >
> > > > > A theosophist from Europe, while privately discussing theosophy on
> > > > Internet,
> > > > > made a comment that they would like to use some of my messages in
> > their
> > > > > local language sites and was concerned about copyright issue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Copyright is owned by the person who wrote the material. Its purpose
> > is
> > > > > primarily to protect the commercial use of the material by someone
> > else
> > > > to
> > > > > make a profit, thus depriving the earnings that are due to the
> > copyright
> > > > > holder. Of course, anyone can quote from any copyrighted material as
> > part
> > > > of
> > > > > a critique. You can Google and understand the various issues
> > surrounding
> > > > > copyright.
> > > > >
> > > > > I clarified that any and all postings of mine on theos-talk can be
> > used
> > > > by
> > > > > anyone in any manner without worrying about copyright. I would like
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > > the material broadcast as widely as possible since the messages are
> > meant
> > > > to
> > > > > further the welfare of everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the past, we have seen copyright principle mis-used by people
> > trying
> > > > to
> > > > > suppress information that may be damaging to their reputation or
> > suppress
> > > > > politically sensitive information, which may have nothing to do with
> > the
> > > > > commercial side of the copyright protection.
> > > > >
> > > > > Theosophists are not an exception to this. More educated one is, more
> > > > likely
> > > > > to (mis)use the copyright club, which generally does not help in the
> > long
> > > > > run. Any material put in writing is bound to come out sooner or later
> > and
> > > > > can bite the bottom of the writer to his/her embarrassment.
> > > > >
> > > > > As this issue may be in the minds of readers, especially in other
> > > > countries,
> > > > > I thought to share the above.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MKR
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no religion higher than Truth
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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