Re: figures in history compared
Mar 02, 2003 08:05 AM
by Steve Stubbs " <firstname.lastname@example.org>
--- In email@example.com, "netemara888 <netemara888@y...>"
> There is a karmic difference. If you
> have read the many accounts of the holocaust as I have you will see
> that these were choices of suffering. Some chose to suffer and go
> through this karma fully and others died at the sight of it and
> others committed suicide.
It might be of interest to Theosophists that there is a rabbi in
Minneapolis who has studied the matter of holocaust victims being
reincarnated and published two books on the subject, both published
by the ARE Press: BEYOND THE ASHES and FROM ASHES TO HEALING. After
he published the first of these I wrote to him (not having seen his
book but having heard about it) and told him if he was collecting any
more stories he could have mine. He wrote back and said he thought
my experiences were real because they "fit the profile" and that when
I read his book I would see what he meant. I had no idea what he was
talking about, but got his book (BEYOND THE ASHES) and was astonished
at all the points he identified which I never realized were
connected. Anyone would recognize bad dreams and flashbacks as part
of it, but there were numerous other matters as well, such as
respiratory problems, etc. One common point was bad dreams of being
persecuted in Spain during the Inquisition campaign against the
Maranos. (He mentioned this in his letter but I do not recall
whether it was in the book or not.) If those dreams have any
relation to historical experience, being murdered by Nazis,
unpleasant as it was, was a walk in the park for their victims
compared to being slowly tortured by the Catholic church and then
burned to death when they were about to expire anyway. It makes one
a believer in separation of church and state. Anyway, his book is
quite good and, I am persuaded, valid.
That said, I have a sense that the victims did not "choose" to be
victims in the sense that you suggest. People who get into fatal
auto accidents might have made some bad choices which led to their
demise (getting out of bed in the morning being the first one) but I
doubt they "chose" to die in a car wreck. Or a concentration camp.
Nobody knows what Hitler's fate was, but I find it depressing to
contemplate. I intuitively suspect he did not come out well.
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