Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00446)

Pedro,

Thanks for your reply to my question.

I asked you:

"Do you believe that young boys 
slept in the same bed with Leadbeater?"

And you replied:

"He [Leadbeater] said so before the 
Advisory Board meeting in London, presided by 
Col. Olcott, in May 1906...."

In light of the above, is it so hard to
believe in Mrs. Martyn's testimony quoted
by Tillett?

Furthermore, consider Leadbeater's own
admission as given by you (above) with what Dr.
Tillett previously wrote:

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Leadbeater, by his own admission:

(i) claimed to be able to know clairvoyantly when boys where 
experiencing sexual desire and initiated discussions about 
masturbation with them;

(ii) "taught" (his word) masturbation to boys [whatever "taught" might
mean];

(iii) included "indicative action" in his "teaching" of masturbation;

(iv) may have used "physical touch" in his "teaching" of masturbation;

(v) did such things to pre-pubescent boys.

This is a long way - morally and legally - from providing counselling 
to boys who sought his advice. Any doctor (or psychologist or 
clergyman or counsellor) who did what Leadbeater admitted doing would 
be de-registered and sent to jail.
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So one might wonder if Leadbeater was teaching them masturbation
while they were in the bed....!!!

And why was he teaching masturbation to pre-pubescent boys in the 
first place?

And please consider all of the above in light of the points I quoted
from Jerry H-E in two recent postings.

What reasonable person would do what Leadbeater admits to and not
expect a firestore of criticism? And one might conclude that 
Leadbeater continued this type of behavior and teaching with total 
disregard as to the effects it might have on the Theosophical Society 
and Theosophy.

More could be said.

Daniel